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Antonio Brown Mega Thread (Was: AB is upset he's being fined by the Raiders

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by steelersrule6, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Brown bears the primary responsibility, but to claim that the Steelers didn't help create that monster is flawed reasoning at best.
     
  2. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Was it the Raiders’ approach, or was the prospect of losing $30 million in guaranteed salary drilled into his head by Rosenhaus?
     
  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I got bored with some of the foolishness and skipped a few pages. It sounds like this is directed at me. To be clear, I don't think I'm smarter than everybody else. I have no doubt I am smarter than some folks here, but I'll keep my own counsel on which ones.
     
  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The Raiders' approach took advantage of that threat.
     
  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Mentally, it is quite clear that Brown is not a grown man.
     
  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    It's not excusing ****ty behavior. It's understanding that a team has to discipline Brown when he gets out of hand or he will get worse. The Steelers failed to do that for a long time and it finally caught up with them.
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    Actually, I didn't pivot at all. Both things are true. The Steelers should have disciplined Brown better a long time ago AND they should have forced him to play rather than give in this past offseason. Once again, Bobby has either misunderstood my point or flat-out lied about my point. Neither is acceptable, but you will sign off on any post that criticizes me no matter how ignorant or dishonest it may be.
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    Actually, I didn't pivot at all. Both things are true. The Steelers should have disciplined Brown better a long time ago AND they should have forced him to play rather than give in this past offseason. Once again, Bobby has either misunderstood my point or flat-out lied about my point. Neither is acceptable, but you will sign off on any post that criticizes me no matter how ignorant or dishonest it may be.
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but we have no idea what Brown would have done if the Steelers had actually done something about Brown's behavior a long time ago. What we do know is that he has backed down when authority figures have stood up to him on multiple occasions. That does not seem to support your point.
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    So some anonymous, vague comment from "Raider players" is believable, but Raiders going on the record and denying most of the accusations regarding Brown's argument with Mayock should be dismissed out of hand?

    To be clear, I don't care that Brown denied calling Mayock a cracker, using other profane language or threatening to punch Mayock, but his teammates have said the same thing and that there was no physical element at all to the confrontation.
     
  11. thorn058

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    So you don't buy Colbert saying they got Bush because of the Brown picks because it is pushing a false narrative. Yet you believe the Raiders locker room when pushing a false narrative of peace and harmony and things didn't happen the way they are reported. Yeah sounds about right. Good thing there is zero evidence of Brown threatening violence or outburst of rage otherwise we would never believe the Raiders.
     
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  12. santeesteel

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    So, it's all...…..fake news? Seems to be going around!
     
  13. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I think both teams are full of ****.

    That said, please find the post in which I made any reference at all to peace and harmony in the Raiders' locker room. You can't because I never posted it. Please be more accurate in representing what I post.

    All I'm saying is if we're going to start accepting vague quotes from anonymous Raiders, perhaps we have to consider accepting what they say on the record.

    We have no idea what really happened between Brown and Mayock. Posters here keep claiming the cracker thing and the part about Burfict holding Brown back as if they are facts, but they want to ignore players going on the record saying those things didn't happen.

    The bottom line is the Raiders threatened real consequences and Brown seems to be backing down. The rest is rumors and speculation.

    I do suspect that the Raiders don't give a damn about Brown's antics as long as he produces when the real games start. I suspect that was true of most, if not all, of his teammates in Pittsburgh as well.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    What are the occasions you are referring to?

    Losing 30 million is the only reason Brown has backed down. Steelers never had that leverage. His antics are all the proof I need to know that the Steelers handled him the right way. Either that or cut him loose after his rookie contract like I said.

    Raiders are fools for not getting out of that when they had the chance. He won't finish the season but by then it won't matter, he'll have his money.
     
  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Maybe he won't be playing Monday night. This guy is damaged goods, holy crap. He plays a recorded phone call between he and his coach.

     
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  16. thorn058

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    I can't quote you because you never said it and I never claimed that you did. I said you are willing to believe the narrative pushed by the Raiders which is that everything is good. That there was no physical element to the exchange, there was no need for teammates to separate Brown from his GM who had tried unsuccessfully to defuse the situation. Teammates claiming nothing of the sort went on. Those are selfserving statements made in order to give the impression that everything is rainbows and kittens in Raiderland.
     
  17. thorn058

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    Wow now that is sorched earth man. Getting someone to add subtitles to your post that is going hard core.
     
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  18. dobbler-33

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    Kid blinked due to his agent and the rest of the media gang speaking on contractual words saying his guaranteed wad was heading for the round file. Nothing more nothing less. Raiders blinked because they knew if they took that step then he'd no show and cause more turmoil in the locker room. Staff and players alike, I'm almost certain were told to shut up and flip the current narrative as was done here and in every other clubhouse across the league when it's somehow fitting. Don't need quoted sources with actual face and name to know that there be fire under that smoke... They dropped the ball by not sitting his ass in the very least for week 1. Our team had their opportunities to shake the bastard up as well and it didn't happen.

    Further treatment of a D bag with kid mittens... League should've stepped up and actually owned up to this mission statement of theirs that forever yields to empowering POS athletes who are above the line in the field of play.

    Allegations are what they are which sucks but due diligence should have been enacted. Unimportant folks (the majority) go to jail day one for alleged verbal threats, racist remarks, beating women, driving beyond recklessly, accosting women or men on and on and on... Notice I included multiple events for the plethora of idiots propped up in this league that trying to have an admirable brand.

    All this **** these fools get away with trickles down hill morally to the folks looking up to them. Want to clean up the league and brighten its future? Broom the **** heads and repetitive **** heads after their day in court of course and those that just refuse to play within policy can go to. Big dropped ball here.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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    Heres the story on the confrontation and his calling Mayock a cracker. I'm not seeing the discipline here, rewarding a guy for this behavior by letting him play and collect his 30 million.

     
  20. The Sodfather

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    You think six years ago anyone in Pittsburgh's front office had a crystal ball and could see where AB was headed if they afforded him latitude? Maybe they thought he would act like a man and conduct himself in a professional manner, damn them. So maybe my reasoning is flawed, but not for the reasons you imply. Sorry, guy. But AB is ultimately responsible for AB. A pro sports team isn't in the business of parenting.
     
  21. KnoxVegasSteel

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    Whatever dude. The premise of this guy's post was that the Steelers FO was responsible for another grown ass man's behavior. To which I say, balderdash.
     
  22. thorn058

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    Doesn't this sound familiar somehow. Brown misses majority of camp, misses this week's practice and his agent says on TV his client wants to play on Monday and hopes that he can. I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.
     
  23. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    AB’s like the hot chick that sleeps around from high school.
    Yep she’s fun your going to score but in the end she will leave you with crabs.
     
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  24. groutbrook

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    That's a Nike commercial.
     
  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    They say f***ing in Nike commercials now? And if you are advertising a Nike commercial, shouldn't Nike make an appearance somewhere in there?
     

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