Pro Football Focus has Josh Dobbs as the HIGHEST RATED QB the last 2 preseason games...

And learn to check down rather than starting to run if the primary receiver is covered. He missed an easy touchdown in game 3 because he didn’t even look at the uncovered back looping out of the backfield. And on the same side of the field the primary receiver was on no less.

After 3 preseasons and 2 full years, he should have progressed farther.

 

So I'm guessing Dalvin Cook and Leonard Fournette are way better RBs than Alvin Kamara if we're going to bring up success in college? Alvin was on those mediocre teams with Dobbs not even starting. He was a backup to a guy who currently plays WR for the 49ers.

Deshaun played for a great program that has won a national title without him last year. Dobbs played for a program that has had 2 losing seasons in a row after he left while when he was playing at Tennessee they were winning 9 games in back to back seasons and finishing in the top 25 of the AP poll.

Situation matters.

 

Fizzled? He threw 5 passes and was barely on the field. It changed nothing. Dobbs is still the more talented player. And if he ever gets his chance to be a starting QB in the NFL, I expect him to excel.

 

Like a wet firecracker.

 

Crazy that Dobbs is even being discussed as having Watson’s potential!

They have similarities in the sense of their physical attributes but unfortunately thats where it ends.

To put it into perspective;

Watson in his first 2 seasons:

TD 19 Int 8 Y/A 8.3 61.8% (7 games)
TD 26 Int 9 Y/A 8.2 68.3%


League Avg in last 2 seasons:

TD 10 Int 6 Y/A 7.0 62.1% (7g Avg)
TD 26 Int 13 Y/A 7.4 64.9%


This kid is legit and although he can use his legs, he doesn’t need to rely on them. He needs to work on avoiding sacks as he gives up far too many, however he’s got a crap O-Line in front of him which doesn’t help.

Dobbs on the other hand has only really had that short spell late in the Raiders game but if you compare his numbers at College level to Watson’s in the NFL, he’s comfortably behind.


I like what I’ve seen from Rudolph and the progress he’s made in a year and as others have mentioned, he fits into how we’re set up far better than Dobbs who’s style is nothing like Bens.

IMO Rudolph could be the future QB in a few years where as I just don’t see Dobbs ever progressing to the level required.

 

Is he saying that Dobbs is better than Rudolph? Lol

 

Now you are just making things up to support your position. Deep passes aren't all about the power of the arm. They are about touch and accuracy, two areas in which Dobbs can't come close to Rudolph.

Dobbs has had plenty of breaks, too. His two longest completions this preseason came on bad throws with Washington bailing him out by adjusting. I don't trust either guy just yet, but Rudolph is already better even with less time in the pros.

 

What Rudolph threw for that touchdown is an accurate throw with touch, something both you and Dobbs may want to learn a little more about.

And yes, those two deep balls to Washington were underthrown. I don't doubt that Dobbs can throw the ball further, but he didn't throw accurately on either of those.

I don't know where you get this stuff about Dobbs having some amazing arm. He doesn't have great zip on out routes, even intermediate ones. You are too caught up in the flashy plays.

 

The college resume is part of the equation, not all of it. Please don't misrepresent what I posted. It's dishonest.

Watson was a huge reason those Clemson teams were contending for championships. He was playing elite competition and dominating much of the time. Dobbs simply wasn't very good and he still isn't.

 

Yes, believe it or not there are at least 2 on this board that think that Dobbs has earned the backup QB job over Rudolph.

 

Exactly.

 

I think he's saying Dobbs is better than Deshaun Watson.

 

Well, here we go. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27501933/sources-rudolph-wins-steelers-backup-qb-job

 

Rightly so.

Full year of healthy Ben with Mason getting some time late on please!!

 

That's a shame we will never see the greatness of Dobbs on the field. He has the skills of some these all time greats- the ability to read the field like Kordell Stewart, the accuracy of Jamarcus Russell, the arm strength of Todd Marinovich and the field generalship of Ryan Leaf.

 

Well this thread didn't age well, did it?

 

FIFY

 

I'll have to have one of my grandkids teach me how to type in green font.

 

Alvin Kamara was also not dominant in college. He's now arguably the best RB in the NFL.

Situation matters. Alvin was not in a good situation at Tennessee and he was not dominant. His talent was always there. It took New Orleans putting him in the right situation for him to show his dominance.

Dobbs has all the tools to be as good as Watson. He's just not been put in the right situation to show his true skills.

 

If Big Ben goes down for the season, I would rather be in Dobbs position.

The pressure will be on Mason. He'll be looking over his shoulder if he makes mistakes. I don't think Mason Rudolph has the talent to keep that starting job for long. A couple of bad games in the regular season and Dobbs will be right back in the mix to be the starter.

 

Not neccesarily.

The heat is on Rudolph now. The NFL is a what have you done recently for me business. If Big Ben goes down, Rudolph will be looking over his shoulder. If he plays poorly (which is possible) then Dobbs will be right there waiting in the wings.

We saw something like this happen last year with the 49ers. Jimmy G went down for the season. The niners turned to 3rd round pick CJ Bethard. He struggled. Then he missed one game. Nick Mullens, an undrafted 2nd year QB, took over and played well enough to keep the job the rest of the year.

The same thing can happen in Pittsburgh if Big Ben goes down.

 

Regardless who the backup QB is, if Ben comes out his usual rusty self, they will be the most popular player in town.

 

In all seriousness... argued by whom?
When people argue about the best RB, the names that get tossed around are Elliot, Barkley, Gurley.

Kamara was 18th in the league in rushing yards last season.
23rd in yards/attempt.
7th in yards from scrimmage, only 120 yards more than Conner despite playing in 2 more games.
He is averaging under 3.5 per rush in the postseason.