Pro Football Focus has Josh Dobbs as the HIGHEST RATED QB the last 2 preseason games...

PWP? Is that yinz? Sure looks familiar.

 

Something here is giving me deja vu all over again.

 

Yeah eerily/tirelessly familiar.

 

Okay so if the team clearly has played better without Dobbs what is the team doing wrong by Dobbs? I mean with all of his upside and potential, how is the team faltering under his command? What can the team do in order to live up to Dobb's talents in order to make this ship sail? I'm all ears and them sombitches are portly I'll have yinz know.

I'm being honest here please explain.

 

I like Dobbs, I do there is talent there but the fact is that as long as Tomlin is coach and Ben is the starter they will follow Tomlin's mantra of not reinventing the wheel as they wait for 7 to heal. Meaning that Dobbs will be a square peg in a round hole and won't be utilized.to his full potential.

 

Faltered? How?

You are judging Dobbs on an extremely small sample size. He has thrown less than 1 game's worth of pass attempts thus far in the preseason. And if you are harkening back to his snaps last year at Oakland, that was roughly a quarter of real game time.

Let see Dobbs have an extended run with the 1st team offense before making such conclusions.

 

His QB rating is 55.freaking 5. To put this in perspective Jamarcus Russell had a career rating of 65.2.

 

I am judging Dobbs on what he has or has not done with more time in the game and more time with the 1's than mason has but you say that he is a far better QB than MR... Just needs more time? If you simply said the team needs to restructure the whole system to appease to his upside I'd kind of better understand your logic whilst still disagreeing but atleast it would make sense. Dobbs has logged more time with 1's and hasn't looked more ready more in command more fluid period. I wanted him personally over Landry and was glad he won out in that matchup... Problem is, the team is clearly not better with him and has performed better "as a team" without him. If someone displays they aren't the answer much less a stop gap then it is pointless to keep giving them a shot. He's not the only one on the current team or in past examples. He does not give you the best chance moving forward if need be. I already said the raiders game is what it is and I think they minimalized the playbook for him but honestly I think now more so than I once did that they did such because he simply can't handle it physically/mentally. He's a brilliant kid on paper and on other topics... He does not process live action decision making nor does his strong arm find its mark often outside of wow plays. He's not even on the level of the Ravens QB which of whom probably flash in the pan at best. I might be wrong, and I'm okay with that.

 

Same here as far as liking him goes and thinking he has talent etc... If he had "it" beautiful but he doesn't seem to have "it". Sure, the whole team could cater to his game but they won't and if they did, it wouldn't end any different than what we're used to recently.

 

I could see an RPO heavy offense working with him for a year similar to Jackson but after that teams will stack 9 in the box and force him to beat them with the pass. Sooner or later it's going to work it's way through the league it's all college football is doing lately. Have to wait for prostyle offense to come back around.

 

Spy dobbs, play deep and game over.

 

I don't see defenses stacking the box.
Dobbs is doing well with the deep ball, but struggling with the short and intermediate passes.
They'll force him to pass short, until he can consistently do damage on those plays.

 

Mason looks like the clear #2 from my point of view. He has improved whereas Dobbs doesn't look any better than last season. He is who we thought he was. If you want to crown his ass then crown his ass. We let him off the hook.

 

Yes, but one day I’ll rewatch that game and he will...

 

Dobbs issue is accuracy plain and simple. I remember hearing Andy Reid saying that you can coach technique and footwork and that will improve but accuracy is something you have or don't. Dobbs throws a good ball straight ahead, if he throws to his left it is a 50/50 deal and when he throws to his right it is complete junk. The Titans game illustrates that perfectly, Dobbs gets flushed out and makes a great escape and on the run makes a great throw to Griffey.

If you go back and watch that throw it is straight ahead, yes, he is moving but the throw is straight in front of him when he makes it. His next pass is a simple out to the 6'8" TE in the flat and he overthrows him, and it wasn't a high throw like you see Ben make, it wasn't even close. Collinsworth, and lord knows I can't stand him, summed it up perfectly, he said that Rudolph seems to be the guy because Dobbs isn't consistent as he makes great plays and then complete head scratchers.

I'm old enough to vividly remember watching Kordell Stewart missing wide open guys on more than one occasion. Dobbs making plays with his legs is great and the athleticism he brings to the table is unquestionable. However, he is very limited as he struggles to make pass plays to the sidelines and overthrows intermediate routes more often than he makes them. I saw a miscommunication with Rudolph in the Titans game but other than that he looked as if he is progressing nicely. Dobbs doesn't look much better than he did last year and that is telling me his play now is close to what you are going to get.

 

I believe Pro Football Focus needs a new prescription

 

Didn't MR throw a 41 yard TD pass? Where do you get he only dinks and dunks? Most qbs rely on their wrs to make plays after the catch. Why fault the qb for that.

 

CBS Sports:

Rudolph, despite remaining behind Dobbs on the depth chart, is currently ahead of Dobbs in the race to be the Steelers' No. 2 quarterback. While Dobbs has made plays both his arm as well as his feet during the preseason, Rudolph out-played him during Pittsburgh's first three preseason games.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...he-pressure-is-on-in-battle-for-no-2-qb-role/

 

I've been watching NFL football for 40 years and my eyes tell me that Rudolph has improved from year 1 to year 2. Whether that translates to Rudolph winning the #2 job remains to be seen. Dobbs has remained stagnant, IMO... no worse or better than last year. I was shocked Landry Jones was cut last year.... we could be shocked again.

 

Sounds a little like that guy in Foxboro. What's his name? Tom...…...…..something.