Backup qb's

LJ had a pretty good showing against the patriots.

 

Landry last year and Dobbs this year would be the right moves.

 

The Raiders game was evidence that supports my claim. They went with Dobbs as the backup and when called upon, he failed miserably. There is nothing false about that narrative at all. The job of the backup quarterback is to step in and at least provide some offense if the starter is injured. Dobbs couldn't do that in his only extended playing time last season.

Based on what little evidence we had, keeping him over Jones was the wrong call.

You are welcome to stand by your opinion, but please don't accuse me of posting something false. You are just as concerned with being right on this matter as I am, so I'm not sure why you are making that such a big deal.

I maintain that the Steelers kept Dobbs mostly because they got caught up in thinking about what would happen after the season, not what was best for 2018. If Dobbs doesn't make the team this year, a distinct possibility with Rudolph grabbing the No. 2 job and Hodges showing up so well in practice and games, the decision looks even worse.

 

haha.. OK

 

Only problem is that Hodges will be poached by other teams before Dobbs will.

 

No, I'm claiming that it is evidence that supports my point. That the coaches didn't even trust Dobbs with the full playbook as they had with Jones also supports my point. I'm not pushing any false narrative and I would appreciate it if you stopped making that incorrect claim about me.

Given how much evidence supports my point, your claim that it was a "no-brainer" makes very little sense.

You're still arguing, so you clearly care about being right.

Funny how you claim that I'd never do such a thing when I congratulated you on being correct in predicting they would keep Dobbs over Jones on this very thread.

The primary advantage in Dobbs was what he might do after 2018. Given that, based on what we've seen so far, he shouldn't even make the 2019 squad ahead of Hodges, the choice is starting to look even worse.

 

Or try to trade dobbs. But yes.

 

Well, have no idea what these two are arguing about at this point but all the back ups look like back ups but decent.
I would like to see Hodges play against the one's more. I would start him, then Mason, after Ben next week just to see what we got.

How do you cut him (Hodges) at this point?

 

I'd also like to see him earlier. Of course, Roethlisberger should get his reps this week, but bringing in Hodges next is a pretty good idea.

 

Actually, it was sincere. Honestly, I don't remember specifically saying they would keep Jones over Dobbs. My focus was on saying that they should keep Jones, but I was erring on the side of giving you credit. Apparently, that effort on my part was wasted. You seem to be reading things in my posts that aren't there. I never claimed to be a beacon of truth, but I'm not pushing a false narrative here at all.

That the coaches played it safe is absolutely on Dobbs. He hadn't shown enough command of the playbook. Of course, that is just a matter of opinion.

I'm not backtracking at all. I do believe Jones would have succeeded where Dobbs failed, but that can't be proven for a fact. What can be proven is that Dobbs failed. He was terrible that day. His lousy performance in Oakland is evidence in favor of my side of the argument.

Regarding your little emoji, are you disputing my claim that Dobbs getting cut this year would support the idea that keeping him last year was a mistake? Haven't you talked about his upside as a reason for keeping him?

 

It's tough to say either way without looking closely into what each team has at quarterback. It is a risk. You are probably right in saying there is a decent chance Hodges would make it to the practice squad if the Steelers chose to go that route.

I don't think losing Hodges is a risk the Steeles should take, but that's no surprise because I don't think very much of Dobbs.

 

I have no doubt the dirty stachioed LJ probably would've done better than Dobbs against Oakland which would not have been a hard thing to accomplish when rehashing things between the two and this said scenario. Truth is, while it might take teams a little longer (and generally they are smarter than us) to get to the same conclusion some rail on, ultimately jones had to go for someone that showed some intrigue and saved some money. It's nothing more than acknowledging what you have ain't going to be good enough
Especially with Ben on the fence at the time regarding his future.

After 3 years with Dobbs... Noticeable jump from rook to sophomore but year 3 after getting a shot in his jump year are already tale telling. He is what he is. Time to not stay stagnant. Rudolph is a better QB honestly and the current rook has shown more poise in a helluva lot les time than Dobbs has had.

Ben's long in the tooth.... Dobbs ain't the answer and I don't know if the other 2 are either come time to call on em but mason has surpassed him and the current rook is worth a look based on nothing more than he's intriguing and Dobbs is what he is which ain't gonna be good enough.

 

I hear ya but Dobbs's body of work is not going to get it done if need be. That is reason enough to hear the other dudes side of the story for keeping him around. It's kind of like the dirty red reasoning. He don't have it outside of special teams and is not a good one to move forward with if needed. Dobbs is nothing more than a wildcat "package" extra ingredient type and should not occupy a roster spot here.

I'll always go with the intriguing guy whose presumed measurables are better fit with a current/future need than a gimmick X factor. Time will tell all of course but I'd prefer looking into the unknown vs. the what they aalready got which ain't much in Dobbs.

I do the same at every position but QB is delicate. Even with the year in and out camp darlings that never come to be, regardless "we've all ate a **** biscuit there over the years" but I take declined over Dobbs and don't look back because I know there is no future with Dobbs regardless of how many more turns you give him.

 

Not sure if you understand what nil means. Just because it hasn't happened to the Steelers lately doesn't mean it won't happen. Teams do it every year.

 

Yeah, I don't see Hodges going anywhere and people do get that weird 'I must have or someone else will take' paranoia . It's what makes the sales industry go round n round in life, I guess, but it's also why "that lady" @ Costco almost takes me out at the hip with her cart to get in front of me thing too.

I do like what I see in him and his attitude to take on the big boyz and I like that he's fighting to be noticed. Nowadays we don't see enough of that there so schooled, jaded, and managed before we ever see them. Kinda ole school.

From what I saw on the high lights Dobbs had a good outing. He was firing that ball out before fleeing and that's what we need to see.

 

Lol not sure how this makes me a smart ass but cool your jets, I come in peace. I'm saying players in general not just QBs. I wouldn't be shocked if there's a team out there saying he's better than what they got on their roster. Stranger things have happened.