2019 Season .vs the Browns

If you are going by historical evidence, the AFCN was always won by a team with double digit wins. Nine has never been enough.

(In 2010, the Ravens had 12 wins and still came in 2nd. In 2011, the same for the Steelers. But that seems unlikely to happen this year.)

 

Keep in mind the AFC North has west coast games this year. Steelers don't travel well to the mountain and pacific time zones. It wouldn't surprise me if Steelers lost to either the 49ers or Cardinals... perhaps even both.

 

Who are the Steelers seven wins Heinz?

 

I covered this months ago. Here's a recap...

Bengals x 2
Ravens x 1
Browns x 1
Colts
Rams
Bills

= 7

 

Could you repeat that?

 

Not necessary.... it's been well documented.

 

11-5 I think baker is the real deal

 

How many years to get to 11 wins?

 

Not this decade.

 

I'm a Steelr fan, but I'm a REALISTIC Steeler fan. We're NOT as good as everyone on here is trying to convince themselves. We're VERY close to having a few rebuilding years. Cleveland is YOUNG, and I think they'll be the team to beat in our division for the next few years.

 

I think you have that reversed.

 

Why do people think saying “I’m realistic” gives them any credibility?

 

realistically speaking it does not lol

 

.......because I can look at things HOW they are, not how I DREAM they are. Most Steeler fans walk around with blinders on thinking we're gonna win the Super Bowl every year. Right now the current Steeler team is just an average NFL team. The sun is setting on Ben, and I don't see his replacement anywhere. We're getting older as a team, and the window is slowly closing. That's being realistic. Like it or not.

 

Just because your realisim fits your narrative does not make anyone elses perception any less real. Let's face it. Nobody knows. You make some very valid points regarding Ben but what you dont talk about is while the lowly browns seemingly are more equipped with talent the Steelers are not exactly sitting idly by watching other teams get better. We are getting faster at defense and making inroads to improving our secondary. Offense has rid itself of a couple of as s pimples. I say we are in a good shape. Superbowl bound. Sure why not.

 

What you are doing isn't so much realism as it is lowering your expectations so that if the team under-performs you aren't disappointed and if they exceed your expectations it is good. The foundations the team has in place will allow it to be competitive into the new decade and not a shambles as the Browns have been since coming back into the league. The Browns have had talented rosters before and the shake up that inevitably happens when they don't meet the owners expectations will mean that they will be a mess once again. I don't dream that the Steelers are good, I know that they are it is just a matter of playing to those strengths and limiting the distractions

 

Browns are probably not as good as advertised either, they are a bit away from a complete roster just yet. They have some holes in key areas like the O-line and secondary and how good is their depth if they lose a few starters?

 

I still have yet to hear who is blocking on the interior for Cleveland. For that matter, the Offensive Line as a whole is still being ignored. Given the aspect that said aspect is still ignored because <insert reasons here>, I elected to showcase their line for all to see. They are as follows:



Greg Robinson: Left Tackle


Joel Bitonio: Left Guard


J.C. Tretter: Center


Austin Corbett: Right Guard


Chris Hubbard: Right Tackle



Beyond Joel, who was JUST named to his first Pro Bowl ever in addition to being a Second Team All Pro, is there anyone else whom the Steelers Front Seven should be concerned about?! It baffles me how and why this is continuously swept under the rug. It makes ZERO sense.



In comparison, the Steelers have three of their five Offensive Lineman being Pro Bowl recipients. In addition, the Steelers have two of their Offensive Lineman having won multiple FIRST Team All Pro nods. Add the rock solid work of Matt Feiler manning the Right Side and, arguably, Pittsburgh boasts the best Offensive Line in football. Yes, Cleveland has gotten much better also on the defensive front seven but Pittsburgh's Offensive Line has faced similar challenges before; Baltimore namely being our biggest one.




Again, and as stated before, until Cleveland's Offensive Line becomes among the very best, I am not worried. Baker is going to have some trouble should his protection falter rapidly in succession.

 

I think Minnesota 2018 is a good example of what can happen if your O-Line is not protecting the QB adequately. They arguably had the best receiver tandem in football with Diggs and Thielen but Cousins was thrown around like a rag doll all season and they finished 8-8 or something.

If the Browns can get even average productivity from their guys them they will of course be very dangerous

 

Well, I guess you told me

 

Assuming Odell does not blow up of course.

 

Obviously, I want and expect the Steelers to beat the Browns. Ben’s record in Cleveland notwithstanding.

At this point, I see the Browns how many see the Redskins every year. Look good on paper, save for the parts we don’t look at. Paper champions I hear some folks say.

I do want the Browns to be competitive. I want them to beat the Ravens twice and the Patriots.

I also expect TJ Watt to be an unstoppable force. The Browns O-line is not quite an immovable object.

Steelers heave a tough schedule, but so does every team that plays the Steelers. 2008 was a tough schedule too. I’d love the 1 seed, but a 6 seed can go all the way. I believe this team is hungry. Go out, beat the Pats and put an exclamation point on it.

 

The talk about the browns being younger? Our rbs are young. Two of our 5 o-linemen are young, plus we are really deep with young players at those positions. Our receiving corp is young. Our linebackers are young. Our safeties are young, as are a few of our corners. The d-line has hargraves and buggs that are young. Tuitt isn't exactly old either. We do have someone in place behind Ben that is young as well. Just untested. So no the browns are not really younger. I believe we have an 11 to 12 win team in place if we stay healthy. Our kicking game let down could have easily produced a double digit win total last year so the 9 wins were kind of a fluke when you look at how we played every team last year. We have a team capable of doing that now, but it will just take a little different fashion then we have grown accustomed to the last few years.