Bells a Jet

And if he gets a career ending injury in collecting his 14 mill, he does not gain that 13mil+ or the 13mil (not 11 mil)+ for the following season +following season, etc.

Are we understanding now?

 

The Steelers get the last laugh because with all the crap and "pay the man" campaign against the Steelers painting them as cheap skates they offered him a better deal in the end.

With that all said, Bell still did fine for himself.

The Steelers can say now though "see you should have signed in Pittsburgh"

 

It's really simple. Bell bet on himself. Didn't want to risk injury for 14.5 mill. Injury was the one thing that would had set him back.

Resetting the market didn't work out as expected. Bell still did well with the contract he received.

 

I'm referring to things like The Steelers paying him for week 17, going to the media with the situation and their intentions, the owner flying to Florida to meet with him. They never really stood there ground.

 

Sums it up

 

The way I see it is if the reports are true that Bell only got 25 million guaranteed.
He gave up a chance at 39.5 Million guaranteed (Last years tag amount + the amount he signed with the Jets) for just 25 Million guaranteed.
If he signed the tag last year and suffered a career ending injury he gets only 14.5 Million
So if my math is correct he took an extra 10.5 million guaranteed over the tag amount when he could have gotten an extra 14.5 million had he played last year..
He gambled away 14.5 million for a risk of a career ending injury which is a pretty rare occurrence % wise.
Considering what he had already made in his first 5 years in the league it was a pretty dumb thing to do considering the contract he signed with the Jets especially considering what the Steelers offered.
The real gamble was not playing last year and that didn't pay off.
Yeah he's making bank, but he played this thing terribly.

 

I don't know all the details on him getting paid for week 17. It could very well be that he showed up and Tomlin sat him and a union thing.

As for Rooney flying to Florida, I don't see how that is an issue seeing how Brown ostracized the entire team and was finally willing to discuss things.

The only thing I see they didn't "stand their ground" was in keep their promise to retain Brown if they did not receive what they wanted in return for Brown.

BUT I think most saw things as they were realizing the Steelers were very much in a sellers position to dump the cancer quickly.

The lack of market from Brown speaks volumes of the dire straights the Steelers were in. They were getting to the point where they would actually have Antonio Brown on the team next year.

Which we all know would have had devastating consequences in the locker room that could have had a trickle down effect putting this franchise in a very bad situation.

I think overall they have handled the Bell and Brown situations very good as both have been extremely challenging.

 

Shazier was injured in 2017. The Steelers could have released him at the end of the season and saved nearly $9M. They didn't. They kept him and paid him over $8 in 2018 and another $.5M in 2019. You're overlooking 2018.

Plus if Bell was injured while he had a $14M cap hit, that means that he's already playing under that contract. If they were to cut him there'd be no savings, not to mention that guaranteed there are rules to cutting an injured player simply because he's injured. The NFLPA isn't that weak.

 

https://nypost.com/2019/03/14/breaking-down-leveon-bells-contract-why-jets-won-this-negotiation/ Here are the details comparing the Steelers offer to what he got.

Yes he made less, and Yes he's doing fine still

And you keep stating the same thing regarding this "pretty rare occurrence" of getting a career ending injury.

You miss the point that he did not want to take even that small chance. And to enlighten you on running back injuries, Bell has two leg injuries one including is MCL << NOT FAR FROM THE CAREER ENDING ACL injury.

It's really not a hard concept to understand.

people like you are funny though because when you're losing a debate you continually side step the main point going in circles stating things that are irrelevant.

 

That's the definition of a risk. Anyway that anyone wants to look at it he was still going to get paid a lot of money. Risk vs which reward he was going to receive.

All the number crunching is pointless. We know that he missed out on some money. Cant miss what you never had anyway. He did ok for himself. Some people can't come to grips with that.

 

Shazier's injury was a nationally recognized incident with a "Shalieve" campaign behind it. Due to the severity and uniqueness of his injury (he may have never walked again), they kept him on the roster paying his salary while he had access to the best neurosurgeons and rehab professionals the Pittsburgh Steelers could offer. This is because they are good people.

To think they would do that with every player (COUGH Ladarius Green) is just not realistic nor does it stand the time of history.

And yes people are released ultimately to injury. No they are not released outright .. They're put on IR. etc.. Now you're making things say things that aren't even there.

And no when they are released due to injury eventually, they are not having any backing by the NFLPA because everything is within the construct of the agreement.

For real man now you're grasping at straws.

 

He didn't want to take that small chance, yet he was jet skiing, playing basketball, and doing who knows what else.

Not to mention everyday life that I've brought up several times. The man could've slipped down the steps and torn his achilles while under no contract. Very small chance of those things happening, but a chance nonetheless.

 

Yes jet skiing, playing basketball, etc all have much LESS of a risk of having a career ending injury than by playing running back in the NFL.

You have a very weak case at the moment.

This is fun though keep going.

 

The Steelers showed their hand at every turn. That's not the way to deal with insubordination.

 

I'm not really trying to win or lose anything. Not sure what I side stepped? Just stating some facts and my opinion.
I didn't disparage you with comments like "It's really not a hard concept to understand"
I get that he didn't want to take even a small chance. IMO I think it was stupid Plus I'm a Steelers fan and I'm pissed at the way he hampered our team with his antics so I'm not really concerned with things that benefit him.

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/9715810/detroit-lions-wr-nate-burleson-breaks-arm-car-crash

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ens-was-hurt-playing-basketball-witnesses-say

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/07/chiefs-g-m-no-more-basketball-for-patrick-mahomes/

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/12/jason-pierre-paul-giants-fireworks-destroyed-hand-exclusive

 

Well not to hijack the Bell thread, I disagree but would be interested in how they "showed their hand" as I just don't see it.

I think we will be getting a lot of entertainment in Oakland however. I might even buy a Gruden bobble head red in the face to flick for entertainment.

 

Exactamundo.

 

LMAO. which one of them had a career ending injury because of it?

 

The Steelers told Polamalu to retired or be released a year into a new deal. The %'s of that happening might be low but it can happen to any player at any time.

It doesn't matter how popular or good you were as a player. Once a player out lives his usefulness,is no longer productive, or costs to much then the team has to make a business decision.

 

I'm sorry but the logic you are arguing is pretty poor. He didn't want to risk career ending injury which would give him no monetary compensation and potentially ended his career. That's the thrust of your point right? That no matter what he was unwilling to risk his future potential earnings and so chose to the sit out. He chose to walk away from 14 million dollars to save his body from injury. Instead he took zero money and then was OK with playing pickup basketball games where injury could happen, to operate a jet ski where death could happen, to visit bars and strip clubs where fights break out all the time. Do you see where the logic of this move is screwy? Not signing the tag and getting the 14 million didn't magically protect him, just meant he was like everyone else where you get up and face potential death without 14 million in your bank account and a chance to grow your brand.

 

Shannon Sharpe and Shawne Merriman agree because they're both grown men and they both understand the value of money in your hand.

 

Don't bother, I already addressed this with him and he dismissed this out of hand. Its obvious, just like FootballAnalyst, he's a young kid. He doesn't understand. Someday he will.

 

Yeah my bad the "really not a hard concept to understand" comment was for BobbyBiz in which I've been repeating the same concept repeatedly with being sidestepped regarding Bell not wanting to chance injury by playing the game last year.

Also agreed with not liking how Bell went about this last year.

Even though it's certainly within his right to do.