Will Mike Tomlin change his approach this upcoming season?

When I try to guess what Mike Tomlin would do, I imagine what Hue Jackson would do and go with that. You can't fix stupid.

 

I voted yes, but can he?

Art is soft...If the Steelers have their somewhat normal 10-6 season...Tomlin will get an extension, and the same old only 3 head Coaches in a Gazillion years mantra continues.....

It's been documented I don't think Tomlin is a good Coach...Is he going to all of a sudden- Because he's on the Hotseat...

Have control of the lockeroom?
Show discipline?
Learn how to use timeouts?
Learn how to challenge plays?
Learn how to anylize and help draft defense, specifically defensive backs?

All this because he's on the hotseat...I think it's a pipedream

 

When I try to guess what Tomlin will do, I imagine what Bill Belichick would do and Tomlin does the opposite.

 

Your list sums up the areas where Tomlin needs to improve. He has to do the first two if the Steelers have any chance of getting to a Super Bowl. If the defense was better, it would make the timeouts use simpler. Tomlin flys by the seat of his pants because he does not have confidence in the defense getting a 3 and out. On challenges, he just needs to have someone else hide the flag and hope he can't find it before the next play is run. On the draft, the Steelers need to go more best player available or trade up or down if they are drafting for need. For example, Artie Burns, trade down and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd. 2018 draft, trade up and get one of the linebackers.

 

He might try and change, but it is likely already too late. The older guys are used to him and probably will not react well to a change or may even just ignore him.

 

Will it start raining up?

 

The answer is E) MT isn't capable of doing better because he's incompetent.

I mean, Hines Ward is dumping on him for ****'s sake.

 

as of now over 51% think Tomin is not going to change. Interesting seeing that he already said he is going to change them. Also with how crazy things have gotten with everyone pointing the finger at him along with Rooney not extending his contract, he is on the hot seat.

How Mike Tomlin handles this situation will be a huge part of what defines his career. Big decisions coming up for him.

 

would be nice if he pulled off his belt and began whipping things into shape but I don't see it happening. Even if he did, what would the initial reaction be? When enablers cut folks off they usually end up getting black balled and name shamed by the crowd they will undoubtedly intitially run off... Which is ultimately a GREAT thing but starts with a pretty rough stretch of growing pains. Might make for another chaotic season despite the positive direction it would certainly yield down the road. I'd be all for it but don't see it happening and at this point in his career he may not be afforded the necessary window needed to change the culture even if he decided it was in fact time to clean things up.

 

We can establish the most harmonious locker room ever in pro sports and it's not gonna win us a SB until the actual coaching improves. We aren't showing much class off the field but we're also being outclassed on it. Preparation,gameplanning,scheme etc.......all below the line.

 

I voted no because MTs ego wont allow him to change, in his mind he didnt do anything wrong..............

 

Lets say that Tomlin does try to impose some changes. The players have already gotten used to specific behaviors being allowed. Once that's out and in practice, it's really going to be hard to reign it back in.

 

It's also a bad move by Art not forcing him to make more coaching changes. Tomlin is surrounding himself with yes men.

 

I don't think he is capable, unfortunately. He coaches by a routine (standard) and sticks with it no matter what. Its easier to coach this way and he has a comfort level he is not willing to risk He is incapable of improvising, adjusting, or game management with multiple variables (which is a problem for him),. He talks the same way. Canned phrases, monotone non-answers. He has the answers to all the questions before they are asked because it doesn't matter what the questions are, the answers will be the same. That's why I don't bother to listen as it has no value. Most people are who they are or who we think they are. I doubt all of a sudden he becomes a master tactician overnight because that is what is required right now. So, no, this regime has run its course and will stay the line until relieved. It happens to every team sooner or later. He has had a decent run but now I see him in a situation where he has painted himself in a corner and he won't be able to fix what needs to be fixed because that is something he has shown incapable of doing.

 

I would find this hard to swallow if I was Butler. I don't think I'd stand for being a lame duck for a season and then demoted to OLB coach on the same team. At least I wouldn't, Butler's mentality and competitiveness would probably be the same but who knows. It just seems like they are trying to develop a coach as they would a draft pick. They had KB around here waiting in the wings for a long time, they gave him a shot and many would agree that he is lacking in certain areas and those areas seem to be the same ones year to year. They just need to cut the cord.

Unlike most, I do think MT will try to change and I think if he becomes more of a disciplinarian (when the players actions deserve it) I don't think there will be any backlash. Some of the players want that discipline according to some quotes. Whether he changes or not we'll see.

 

I actually think the easier part will be piecing the locker room back together. He just needs to have Ben act more accordingly and responsible as a captain and veteran and somehow needs to have AB untwist his panties. Easier said then done I know but I feel fixing their preparations leading up to games and his performances between the lines as a HC is the harder of the two. Honestly I don't think Tomlin is great at X and Os and he's not surrounded by coordinators that are either. JMO.

 

Butler may feel lucky to have a job. No one is beating his door down that's for sure. Who knows maybe he is happier just coaching the LBs. He seems like a quiet ,humble guy. He may prefer to be out of the limelight and the responsibility as a DC. I also think the Austin hire is more than just a developmental hire. He was already a former DC. They are essentially cutting the cord with Butler and like I said his demotion may be a mutual agreement.. I agree with the Tomlin thought and I posted something similar. I think Ben and AB are the ones that need to be fixed. Like you said everyone else seems willing to fall in line.

 

Nope! Why should he?

He is highly reputed, and he can't be fired.

He has a superior record, and he can't be fired.

And, he can't be fired.

 

I laugh at all the people who cannot get past the cliches. What he says publicly has little bearing on what he does in the locker room. Before the collapse this season, no one complained about him. Except for Harrison. But even then Harrison didn’t until last season. All I ever heard from players was praise for the man.

If Hines came out and said Tomlin is a great coach, sports media would ignore him. He’s just trying to build his brand and be relevant. And think about, either the drama stays and they do bad, the drama stays and they do well, the drama goes and they do bad, or the drama goes and they do well. Hines is right 3/4. They only way he is wrong is if the drama stays and they do well.

How many drama queens do they have? Bell, Brown, Burnett? They ain’t all coming back. Don’t you think the other players will want to step up and communicate their desire to keep problems in house and solve them (Ben) so they can win?

Whether or not Tomlin makes changes, we may never know. The players may rally to the cause on their own. But I suspect Tomlin will have a great role in it.

 

Maybe some on field discipline?

Maybe some locker room leadership?

Maybe some in game decision making?

Maybe shed the "drama queen" persona?

Maybe beat the Patriots in a big game?

Maybe carry on, rather than dismantle, just a little bit of Steeler charisma?

 

I don't honestly think an intelligent Steeler fan cares about the cliche`s, they would be cool if the team wasn't such a dumpster fire.

It's the fact that for the first time since I became a Steeler fan in 1970, me and plenty of my fellow fans, are often embarrassed to be Steeler fans. I am sick of the fact that when the Steelers on talked about, it isn't because of their dominance, it's because of their internal dysfunction.

The question is asked by NFL fans all over the world ..... "was that player that good or was it because he was part of a good system"? Is Tomlin really that good, or is he a waning part of what used to be a good system?

In two of the last three years, with one of the most talent laden teams ever in the NFL, we have a 2-2 record in the playoffs and missed the playoffs altogether this year.

 

I truly believe this season is the official hot seat. I’m kinda hoping we miss the playoffs so we dump him.

Sad way of thinking huh

 

I honestly believe if you think Tomlin is on the hot seat you're dreaming. Unless Art differs from his father's approach but that's the only hope.