AB

Yes, that’s why I stuck in the “can’t be cured”. Absolutely, if things can be mended, that is the first option. And I think Mr Rooney left a slight window for that option.

 

I agree it is up to ownership I am just talking as a fan. I agree he has to stop the diva act and yeah AB is who he is. I agree he is being a punk for not calling him and all this BS he is doing, I am not liking any of that. But to think we are not a better team with AB is wrong, almost any team is better with AB. This whole deal sucks IMO

 

Like you, I see precious little evidence that AB has the slightest intention of doing a 180. Art II said last week that he hasn't talked to AB and isn't waiting by his phone. So, suppose AB, as is likely, never talks to Art or Tomlin again. You have to trade him, right? He can't come back under circunstances like that.

So you're forced to trade him. As you cut your deal, and your trade partner is willing to give you a 1st rounder, but wants some assurance that AB will actually report after the trade. This means talking to his agent. And if his agent says, my client won't go to Denver, Buffalo, Tampa Bay whatever, the deal is off with those teams. AB has some choice of destination leverage, unless you want to force him to sit or return.

 

I don't think it's a question of AB holding out. He knows the Steelers HAVE to deal him. They don't want him back, they can't have him back. So he will be able to direct where they trade him. He ain't hiolding out, but unlike Bell where the team was willing for him to return at his lie sure, AB has burned his bridge back.

 

I’d be surprised if AB’s contract didn’t have a clause giving him trade veto power.

 

That is what I am talking about talent, what I am trying to say is keeping the 2 separate. There is no doubt AB has acted bad in this but there is no doubt what he brings to the table as far as skills goes. Like I said in my previous at what point do we give into every unhappy player?

As for the TO thing how many teams did he play for(SF, Philly, Cryboys, Bills, Bungals and a brief stay with the Seahawks), that should answer that question there were more than a few that over looked his off field stuff to think they were better with him. There are always teams that are going to over look these things to make them better.

 

Actually, yes. Owens did make teams better. He damn near carried the Eagles to a Super Bowl.

 

I guess you were missing my point in my original post, I am keeping them separate and then asking people here what they thought. I was just a conversation starter as ME PERSONALLY don't want to see AB go from his performance side but can't stand to keep him here from his off field side. Also if we trade him does it open up others who want out to do something.

As for TO you asked if I thought TO made teams better yes I did ON THE FIELD but not off it for sure and it looks like other teams felt the same way as I showed in my example. Like I said this whole deal stinks and to be honest with you us fans are the ones suffering imo. We have no control and we are left holding our fandom in this whole mess. Sad sad sad..........

 

He probably wont holdout but he knows the team doesnt want him back for the integrity of the organization. If he comes back he knows he can pretty much do what he wants and the team will do nothing. It's all a very slippery slope.

 

He did make the eagles better. That 04 season was by far McNabb's best. T.O was the reason they got the number 1 seed and finally got over the hump.

 

Because he got hurt and mcnabb choked. If he was healthy in that game they win and he was playing on a broken fibula and still had 9 for 128. Before he got there they had went to what 5 straight NFC championships and couldn't win. How many of the top 10 receivers have won rings? Only Jerry, Irvin, and Harrison. All 3 played with first ballot hall of fame QBs. Wr is a dependent position. Normally they dont lead you to a ring but they can be a tremendous help. And I said LONG TIME AGO Ab was a me guy.

 

OK.......

 

How many rings does P.O.(T.owens) have? As many as teams he made better.

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/01/p...teelers-future-i-think-they-can-get-it-right/

 

I think the same thing

 

How did we go from getting rid of team cancers and bad coaches to bringing them both back and keeping the crappy coaches?? What the hell is going on with this team?