Is it all Ben's fault

They have marsha and belicheat who can turn dirt into gold.

 

maybe we should be looking for a coaching staff that can at least make use of the talent we have on this team. That can at least beat a team like the Raiders. I'm just frustrated with the whole thing right now

 

just what you mean to me. And now that your near

 

If he did that was bad but maybe he learned from that moment. Ben at the end of his career is STILL calling people out.

 

I see that. I see in his YOUNGER days he did this. I'm sure once the coaches and veterans talked to him he stopped that as you heard none of this as he got older. And older, veteran, and already to not to do so Ben is STILL DOING IT.

 

The point is Manning did call out team mates. He wasn't all that young, he had to be 5 or 6 seasons in when he threw his 'liquored up kicker' under the bus.

 

5 season's compared to Ben with over a decade of experience? And like I said he didnt continue it throught his career. Ben is still doing it.

 

I wasn't defending Ben, I never mentioned him in my post.
You stated that you didn't recall Manning ever calling anyone out, so I posted an example. That's all.

 

I didn't recall that. It wasn't widely reported, none of any peyton's former teamates from what i remember called him a bad leader or teammate, peyton never had a falling out with any of his teamates from what I remember. Both Wayne and Harrison stayed in indy their whole careers. Sanders and demaryius said nothin bad about him. Etc..

 

And did he call the kicker out for being drunk or did he call him out for missing field goals?

 

I heard the sound of the kicker but it didnt sound like he called him out for missing kicks. He called him out for his behavior. He didnt say the kicker ran the wrong route so that's why I threw a pick. He didnt say i should have thrown to x more times than z.

 

Ben is certainly good at throwing team mates and Fichtner under the bus for his league leading interceptions:

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...thlisberger-had-on-team-chemistry-in-2018-nfl

 

................what?

 

And furthermore...

I've read interviews from Ben (would have to dig it up) where he didn't blame anyone but himself for his INTs, and goes on to say he doesn't care about them. So not sure what this "journalist" was getting at.

 

lol .. lyrics from Chicago song Color My World lol

 

I'm tired of people whining about Ben.

Put the big boy pants on and play football!

 

Damn you for getting that song stuck in my head!

 

Now THIS is funny, almost spit my drink onto my desk. RIP Terry Kath (Chicago)

 

Obviously....

 

Ummm......all of the highlights are links to the articles and quotes. Now is he lazy or just another Ben detractor or both? ....

 

Lazy? “Hunting” by clicking a button?