AB

It's not whining it's a fact that Ben doesn't always put winning and what it takes to win above everything. He's not always in shape and he sits out preseason with no remorse and before you say it's Tomlins decision Ben could play if he wanted too. He chooses not to and the entire team suffers because of it. That's also a fact. Again why suddenly changer the routine? Regular season game? It's a playoff game essentially.Because there is no tomorrow just like AB not practicing. Ben being terrible in the beginning of the season is just as big a deal as it is at the end. Every game counts as you can tell because we're sitting home. Fact.

 

Ben says that because he isn’t stupid. AB can help him win games and is an amazing talent. But I don’t believe for one second that Ben actually likes AB, more so he just tolerates him.

 

I already admitted AB is acting a fool I don't know how many more ways I can say it. My point is he's not alone in being a major problem with this team. It starts at the top. So you are telling me that when you watch us sometimes you don't think to yourself they are going through the motions. You have questioned some of their performances yourself by questioning if they even practiced for the game. Players are saying they are " sleepwalking " in games . So I don't think it's that far fetched. They were in a malaise the first half just this past game. I would say they weren't giving it their all.

 

I don't think the whole story has come out on this, I don't believe that AB threw a football at Ben, although there might have been some type of disagreement.

 

I'd back that up - it all started with Harrison.

 

I have no problem with Ben doing this. After all, aside from (presumably) RF, he *is* the one that knows the playbook better than anyone - and that includes the routes that are run. Sure, AB is a veteran, but Ben is *the* veteran of this team. Not to mention, he's the one that is throwing you the ball, AB. Stop being a baby, shut your b**** mouth and listen to the guy. You just might learn something.

 

There's already contradictions to that report. I've read where a football was thrown and it happened to be in Ben's direction and not at him at all. Sounds like it could of been directed at someone else all together or no one at all just frustration. According to Ben he thought AB was gonna play and didn't learn that he wasn't until Sunday. No wonder the communication is so bad on the field they can't even deliver a message off it.
If it was a disciplinary action by Tomlin it would of been nice if your QB knew. The whole team is a **** show and there's more than enough blame to go around. It's a entire team implosion that has been brewing for a while. This is just icing on the cake. Business isn't boomin in the Steelers organization.

 

I think I want to hold my opinions until more comes out. A lot of these times things get blown up over small things. Let’s let the dust settle and see where we really are.

 

Which means it all started with Tomlin.

 

If know bro the entire situation with this team has got me outraged. I furious we missed the playoffs after being 7-2. AB is a immature child obviously. IMO opinion there are lots of players and coaches not putting in the necessary work to make this team a product we fans can be proud of. This team has become embarrassing to root for but unfortunately it's in my DNA and I have no choice. They are my team. I blame Ben for a lot of things because he is supposed to be a leader and I don't feel he does everything he could to make this team the best it can be. This entire team needs a culture change and I don't think we have the leadership on board to make it happen. The latest AB saga is just a part of the big picture of what has become of this franchise. It's on a downward spiral when it should be playing its best football and it's depressing. Also I think your practice comments are legit because they have proven on the field when they prepare properly(players and coaches) and when they don't. It's not coincidence.....

 

I thought Martavis started it.

 

If.....Ben thought AB was gonna play, that is another major ****up by Tomlin...You are the HEAD Coach...You owe it to the rest of the team to have a meeting ( with AB present ) And say to the whole team...

" Due to his actions this week, AB will not be suiting up Sunday, this kind of behavior is not conducive of what we're trying to accomplish here "...

But in typical pussy Tomlin fashion, you don't tell the team, or even your QB, AB is not playing...How is that the right thing, or smart thing to do?

All the right thing to do **** aside...I would think not having one of the best WR's in the game suddenly/ unknowingly not playing...Wouldn't you want to implement a plan, and let the players know of said plan...On how they're gonna offset AB not being there...And how they will adapt their gameplan, and personnel changes that will be made, because of his non participation...

Wouldn't that be a much smarter thing than an hour before the game say" Oh, everybody...listen up...AB is not suiting up today, just thought I'd let y'all know "

Steelers on 3...1,2,3, STEELERS!

 

Game time decision?

 

But why? This **** happened on Wednesday

 

Everyone knew Brown probably wasn’t going to play. Ben’s just being Ben

 

Quoting Decastro "sleepwalking"

 

MB did that to himself. Harrison just wanted to play, and felt he still had something in the tank to contribute (and he was right). MT just played the whole JH situation like a tool.

 

In theory yes but who the hell knows what's what with this team. I mean look Ben is claiming he is unaware of any incident even happening. So maybe he knew maybe he didn't. They just **** everything up even the simple things like in Oakland with the X Ray explanation. Ben has thrown so many people under the bus I don't know if he even realizes when he's doing it anymore. He's says he wasn't aware AB wasn't playing until Sunday if that's true ,he's throwing Tomlin under the bus.

Going back to the Oakland debacle. Some even going as far as to say Tomlin holding Ben out was a fireable offense. Ben claimed he was ready to go and was just waiting for Tomlin to put him back in. They later went back and tried to offer up some BS about the X Ray but Ben had already sold Tomlin out.

I just find it funny how everyone is so outraged by what AB did and how it could of cost us a playoff spot. If it was a meaningless end of the year game would it be as big of a issue? Don't get me wrong it definitely has the potential to be very troublesome if it isn't handled correctly by all those involved. He's acting like a jackass and probably needs mental help and I'm being serious.

Ben not playing in the PS and not forcing his way into the Oakland game both things he could easily do and Tomlin not playing Ben PS and putting him back in the Oakland game himself directly cost us a playoff berth long before the potential of AB doing so. We controlled our own destiny at those points .In game 16 we didn't . I would say almost everyone on this team coaches included are all doing their part big or small in stopping this team from prospering. At he end of the day the first game of the season counts just as much as the last one before you are eliminated from the playoff hunt. When the entire team starts realizing that and treating them as such we may actually go somewhere. That's just my opinion....

 

And a damn good one...This team needs a lot of changes...Most of all being attitude, discipline, work ethic, maybe even moreso than talent...

That includes the Coaches and players...A COMPLETE culture change...As opposed to some kind of soap opera,little girl infighting every week!

 

And it starts... at the top. If you had a group of talented workers on a team that consistently didn't perform up to standards, were constantly infighting, throwing temper tantrums - the manager would get canned, and they'd bring in a task-master, someone that can enforce discipline.

But I'm not going to turn this into another #FYouKnowWhoImmediately thread, there's already too many of those.

 

Apparently this was reported by long time Pitt sports journalist, whom I would believe have access to sitting in on practices. These are the same guys who reported LevBell skipped walkthroughs before the Jags playoff game.

These guys don’t make stuff up.

 

I'm seeing a constant theme hear reading these posts and it all leads back to a lack of leadership. Starts at the top and rolls down hill. It's so damn obvious.