Dust has settled... Great win but very lucky and horrible offensive gameplan.

Jags have dominated us for 3 games in a row playing how the Steelers use to play in Bens early years. Pound the run to open the pass. Except we got lucky and Bortles couldn't throw the ball yesterday like he did in the playoffs.

They have the best DBs in the game and we play right into their hand and sit in shotgun all game. We need to come out early and run the ball down their throat. Make their sassy DBs make some tackles. Run to open the pass. Early they were just rushing 3-4 and dropping everybody into coverage. There was nowhere to throw the ball. We got very lucky they got away from that and started playing man to man for some reason.

Hopefully we knocked them out the playoffs and don't have to potentially see them again. The inability to watch 2 games from last year and trot out the same gameplan thinking something is going to change is worrisome. Makes me wonder if they will make the right adjustments to finally slay the dragon.

 

7-2-1

 

The Steelers did try to run. The Jaguars were selling out to stop the run, trusting their defensive backs in man coverage. It didn't help that both offensive tackles struggled yesterday.

This point was already made in other threads and it is no better here than it was there.

 

They tried to run from shotgun. There's a huge difference.

 

Ben stopped forcing it to AB and took the short stuff which was there all day, but Ben felt he had to prove something to Ramsey .Its not a bad thing if one of the top corners takes your top wr out of the game and leaves you with everyone else as an easy option ..Ben finally smartened up if you ask me.

 

Isn’t the op supposed to be on strike? Boycotting the nfl if you prefer

 

Not directed at you, but talk about not being able to see the forest from the trees.

 

Outside of the first drive, I can't remember Conner having more than 1 rush in a series, so no, I don't think they tried to establish any running game.

 

3 and out
3 and out
3 and out
Interception
3 and out
Interception
3 and out

Awful hard to establish the run when you can’t convert 3rd down and turn the ball over repeatedly.

 

Maybe none of that would have happened if they tried to run the ball

 

Apparently you’re sticking to your boycott and didn’t even watch the game.

 

One person saying this and everybody running with it doesn't mean it's fact. They were rushing 4 and dropping everybody into coverage. That's why there was no where for Ben to throw. So if they were selling out the run, how was there nobody open to throw the ball to? I'm confused.

 

The Jaguars have two outstanding cornerbacks, solid safeties and athletic linebackers. It's what makes the Jaguars' defense so difficult when all the pieces are in place. They can be aggressive up front because those guys can handle man coverage.

 

The Steelers did not get lucky with Bortles. They covered well and put tremendous pressure on him. Bortles dropped back to pass 26 times. They sacked him on six of those and got pressure that forced him to scramble twice. Most of the 18 times he did throw the ball, it was either a quick pass off a short drop or under pressure.

If anything, the Jaguars were lucky to get what little success they had in the passing game, with both throws to Fournette being improvisation under pressure, catching the Steelers in a safety blitz.

 

They weren't selling out the run. They did once on 4th down. They constantly rushed 4 all game and dropped their LBs into coverage. I just rewatched the highlights of 1st half to verify. If they were selling out the run. How come there was no where for Ben to throw? I thought we have the #1 o-line. Line up a hat for a hat and play smash mouth football and run it down their throats.

 

Yeah he pouted and went on and on about it last season.
I knew it would never last.

 

They were also using their speed at LB to cover up routes that Ben thought would of been available pre snap. That's why he was double clutching a lot and forced to hold the ball. I agree that he passed up on some easier options at times trying to force the ball in to AB. It was tough sledding all around but we came away with a huge win. There aren't many teams in the league that can run that kind of defensive talent out on the field every week. We didn't play great but like you said they deserve some credit as well.

 

That's why you run the ball against them to open the pass. It's simple.

 

Not if the lane is clogged every time you try to run. This was on the O-line, not Conner. People are so silly sometimes.

 

Where did I say it was on Conner? Yes, it was on the o-line but they were running from shotgun. A lot goes into it, timing and have to hold blocks longer. Conner is already 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. That's why I'm saying they needed to get into a real running formation. Hat on hat and get Nix in there and run it down their throats. Suppose to have the #1 o-line.

 

They have had tremendous success running from the shotgun this season. In fact, it was cited as one of the keys to opening up the running game in the victories over the Ravens. They ran their offense yesterday. They may have given up on the run a bit too early, but that's going to happen when the opponent is dominating time of possession and blowing up the early attempts to run. You can't wear a team down if you can't maintain possession and the Steelers weren't converting on third downs for most of the game yesterday.

 

I get that and I'm fine with it against every team but the Jags. Texans had a lot of success against them with it as well. Their lines are just a bad match-up for us and severely underrated imo. You can just look at the other two games and running from shotgun doesn't work against them. 15-16 carries for 50-60 yards twice. It doesn't work.

 

Actually it's not....you are entitled to your opinion though. I'm not in the business of mocking other people's opinions like some around here.

 

How do you get their LBs from dropping into coverage then?