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Where Was The Run?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Marko, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the drop saved time from the clock that bortles would’ve thrown a td.


    I’m reaching lol
     
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  2. Steel Hog

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    The Jags D owned us for most of the first 3rd qtrs. Time of possession, turnovers, 3 and outs were all dictated by a team with 3 wins. Defensively, they were ripping us to pieces with the run and we were lucky they only got FGs. Even Bortles was killing us with his legs. We had zero answers offensively for a good part of this game. Concerning Dumb Bell, he is nothing if our line isn't opening some lanes to run through and therefore his absence meant nothing today. Jags have had our number and we were very fortunate to pull this one out. Chalk this up to another of those games we start out horribly slow and look unprepared against a sub 500 team. This is nothing new. Now, on to Denver for win number 8.
     
  3. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    This happens almost every season lately.
    Late in the season the #1 RB is beat up.
    There never is quality backups.
     
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  4. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I said it in the game day thread - the Jags were throwing everything at the rush, but when we put more receivers out there, we tended to see guys getting open. I don't think even Walter Payton would have been able to do much against that Jags line yesterday.

    Sometimes the receivers dropped the ball, sometimes it was a bad throw, and there was a third down sack where Washington was wide open standing at the first down marker. Ben pumped to him but then kept it.

    Passing was the way to beat the Jags D, and use the pass to set up the run. The problem was, both were pretty ineffective until the 4th quarter.
     
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  5. Busman

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    Damn.. thought I had you on ignore. I literally hate reading your constant drivel.. There now your on ignore
     
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  6. BK99

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    I don't think you really understand what you saw. I recall a game in which Zeke had 18 yards on 12 carries against Denver. The problem with the run against the jags was due in large part to their DBs, they had 8 and 9 guys in the box most of the game because they can play man coverage with no safety help. That along with LBers with speed to fill gaps made it very difficult. The way you run against Jacksonville is when you have a lead, when you see the jags getting gashed in the run game is when they are behind, they kind of play too fast and with the man to man coverage if a RB gets through the line he usually gets a good gain. The Steelers were behind and if they would have been better passing the ball it would have opened up more for Connor but make no mistake, it didn't matter who would been back there, Bell would have had a tough game and so would any back including Gurley.
     
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  7. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

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    Ok...
     
  8. MeanJoeBlue

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    Maybe the run game was the same as usual.

    Kansas City: 8 for 17 yards
    Tampa Bay: first 9 carries foe 13 yards (next 6 were for 48 yards)
    Baltimore(1): 9 for 19
    Cleveland(2): first 9 carries for 27 yards (ended with 24-146)

    The difference is if the passing game is doing well enough to keep the sticks moving. Going 3-and-out limits the number of touches possible, and the defense stays fresh for the run.
     
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  9. Formerscribe

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    That was part of it. The Jaguars dominated time of possession with over 39 minutes, though they only ran seven more plays.
     
  10. Iowasteeljim

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    Like others, I feel like today was just a tough day sledding. Bell, Gurley, Johnson, or Jesus himself wasn't going to have a lot of yards running today. As for Ben, the only knock I have on the guy is what he does to himself when he tries to force the ball. In my opinion, Ben is elite when he takes what defenses gives him, but man, when he tries to force the ball he is awful.
     
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  11. 58stillers

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    They never attempted to establish any run, this game was similar to the KC & 1st Baltimore game, under 10 rushing attempts isn't trying to establish anything. That said, Conner did have a bad day in the receiving department, but I'm not worried about him, he'll get his head straightened out.
     
  12. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    When we get down , we pass...Wow, what a novel idea
     
  13. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    We tried to run and couldn't...Did you want them to keep slamming there head against a brick wall
     
  14. biggbunch68

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    I believe you gotta try and run more than 9 times, And Connor was the only back they tried to run... IMO we came in with a piss poor game plan on offense .....
     
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  15. Formerscribe

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    They barely had the ball in the first half and they were running out of time to rally in the second. I don't think the plan was to run only nine times. Part of the problem was the defense getting shoved all over the field the entire first half.
     
  16. Busman

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    So the question becomes at what point do you abandon the run when its not working. Because we won I say it was a great coaches decision lol..
     
  17. Disco1981

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    Jags were selling out with the run blitz...1st time I really seen our line get over-powered...Got down, couldn't run, had to pass...Sorry, Wasn't trying to be a smart Ass
     
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  18. Disco1981

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    Jags were run blitzing and over-powering our line ( 1st time I seen that ) They have a great D-line, and rotate a lot too...You got down, couldn't run, had to pass, could pass...That's what we had to do...Sorry, Wasn't trying to be a smart Ass
     
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  19. SDOT

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    Maybe if they got out of shotgun and get in I formation like the Jags did and run it down their throats. Jags were rushing 3-4 early in the game and couldn't do anything running from shotgun.
     
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  20. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    They tried that some, too. It didn't work.
     
  21. SDOT

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    They tried it once from what I can remember and I remember Ben checking out of it. They came out in i formation then went right back to shotgun.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    They ran it out of that formation a couple of times, too. The Jaguars were selling out to stop the run. They were dominating time of possession. The lack of a running game wasn't the game plan. It was the situation and the play of the Jacksonville defense.
     
  23. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    What was the game plan?
     
  24. Disco1981

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    What I don't like ( seems like all teams do this ) In the shotgun, 1st down from the 2...C'mon, Get in that I with Rosie at FB, extra Tackle in...You still have options off of this, Ben sneak, Quick hitter to Rosie, Of course the regular handoff with Rosie leading...Fake dive with everyone selling out, then a rollout...

    Idk...I just cringe when I see us ( and every other team ) Go shotgun from the one or two yard line...early in a series of downs
     
  25. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    They hadn't run the ball effectively all game, yet they were supposed to line up in the I-formation and pound it in from the two?

    The throw to Switzer would have worked if the defender didn't grab his head and yank. The play after that forced a defensive holding. The final play worked for a touchdown. They got back into the game with the pass. The ongoing complaining about something that worked just doesn't make sense to me.
     
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