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Bettis now blaming Tomlin

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by BK99, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    Aye!

    Already said a handful of times over the years... Many similarities between the chin and peepers. Both have the occasional mouthy fool that can't back his **** up, both have th off season dolt doing doltish ****. Both hold on to yesterday's a little too long (mostly due to can kicking of contracts down the road) both accumulate 1 and dones in the PO's and bed ****ting in AFC ship games. Neither have figured out how to stop 3rd and long passes over the middle (hahahahaha but not funny) both get hungover after the bowl wins the following season. Both own an idiotic, albeit funny sideline moment where someone almost got punched and or tripped.

    It's really a Steelers thing... Cowher never really had a legit QB until the 11th hour. Tomlin has not had a legit D since his first couple of hours. Both were/are highly touted D guys. Cowher would rather pass on a QB as weve heard... Tomlin chooses to not live in his fears as we've heard. Both had the amount of success that doesn't render you high quality picks year in and out and both have had to embrace the same ideology of not being able to get aggressive in FA.

    We've all seen WTF moments week in and week out, season in season out blah blah blah... We can even walk it back earlier to the latter years of Noll. Lots of misses, lots of head scratchers, a lot of similarities in my life time when I really look at the nitty gritty of it.

    Noll's time was up as were the greats and old timers of his era. Cowher literally checked out and the team played as such in that Super Bowl hangover season. Tomlin inherited a gift and reaped early success. Now things are getting salty for a ton of different opinionated reasons and although he's continued to field a highly competitive unit, he's still running neck and neck with a myriad of similar problems with the old guard and isn't atleast to my eye, trying to put some of the same O'l to bed.

    Maybe he isn't allowed to? Times change, but when you look at this team honestly not much has changed other than results that were had in a time that was special and hadn't been over commercialized and bastardized and teams were somewhat families and stayed together.

    I don't care for the new NFL and I appreciate the Rooney approach even in the lean years... I look forward to each new season and hope something was learned from the season prior. Honestly, we've had 3 pretty damn good coaches when it's mattered. They all could've done better, could've done a hell of a lot worse as well. Tomlins book isn't written yet and I hope like hell he changes the narrative because as it stands, those early 80's are creeping back up.
     
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  2. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I wont disagree with much of that. I will take some issue with the underperforming. They went 13-3 and honestly won some games this year that in past years they found a way to lose.

    He is a 4-3 cover 2 guy. Not sure he has a very big fingerprint on the d yet. That has to come
     
  3. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    At the start of the season everyone said this team will goes as far as the d will take them. It did.

    Not a super bowl winning defense. It became more apparent in the ravens game and it caught up with them
     
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  4. AskQuestionsLater

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    My issue with Tomlin this season was his lack of trust to Keith Butler and his lack of discipline overall.


    I am still wondering as to why Tomlin took over defensive playcalling during somepoint in the season. For that matter, why have Butler wait for his opportunity to be a coordinator simply to strip him of his duties?


    There really is too many unanswered questions here with what went down this season from my perspective. I can state this; Tomlin needs to tighten the ship and batten down the proverbial hatches in the lockeroom next season and re-establish a common goal that can go beyond making it to the Super Bowl.


    Should he fail... I just may join the Tomlin detractor faction.
     
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  5. Lambert

    Lambert Well-Known Member

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    He's not a good head coach. Hell of a nice guy and, yes, the record is good, but the talent level is covering a lot of problems. We aren't disciplined, we don't adjust, we don't manage a game well, players on D just don't seem to improve, and so forth. In the very least, coaching changes should have been made on the D side after the Jax clusterf***. They aren't winning a championship like this and Tomlin either doesn't see it, doesn't have the stones to address it, or doesn't know what to do - all worthy of being dismissed.
     
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  6. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Well said Ask. I am also wondering why Tomlin took over the defense, if true. Because if so, they sure took a nose dive. What does that say about Butler? That's why I feel all the coaches were retained because it would be a indictment of Tomlin failing. And the lack of discipline is like a beacon...And Bell is still opening his pie hole.

    I am looking forward to seeing what transpires in the coming months. I bleed, but the wounds are getting deeper...same as it ever was is not going to get it done on the defensive side. So it should be an interesting off season. I'm still waiting for Mr. Rooney to give his take...
     
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  7. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Bravo, tell it like it is.
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It is interesting that known names are now speaking up about Tomlin.

    Couldnt disagree more that he isn't a good coach but definitely fair to question is he the coach to get them over the hump.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Has either of them said Tomlin took over calling the defense? Tomlin might be more involved with the defense in practice, I haven't seen any proof he calls the defense on gameday.
     
  10. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Here ya go, it was talked about a lot around here:


    He called many of the defensive plays from the sideline this season. He also took charge of many of the secondary meetings and those with the entire defense.

    http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...-took-over-defensive-playcalling-last-season/
     
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  11. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Until tomlin wins with his own players I’ll call him a good coach lol.


    Talent bails him out way too much
     
  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I was questioning it because usually if a coach is making calls during a game they have a playsheet.
     
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  13. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    I was surprised you missed it cause it was posted in one of the 10 hate Tomlin threads.....lol
     
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  14. SteelerJJ

    SteelerJJ Well-Known Member

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    Ugh. I remember that game. Kordell and those 3 Int's...
     

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