1. Hi Guest, Registrations are now open. See you on the inside.
    Dismiss Notice

The REAL TB12!

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by JackAttack 5958, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

    13,091
    2,478
    Oct 18, 2011
    I've said repeatedly that I'd take Terry Bradshaw over any quarterback in NFL history if I had one Super Bowl game to win. He came up big when he had to on the biggest stage EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!

    This article does a tremendous job supporting my hypothesis. Bradshaw's average touchdown pass in Super Bowls (excluding his first two short ones to TEs) was almost 45 yards! Tom Brady's average TD pass...a whopping 6 yards!

    Terry Bradshaw is the REAL TB12! Not the guy playing this weekend!


    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...he-patriots-terry-bradshaw-steelers-tom-brady
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2018
    • Like Like x 5
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  2. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

    5,388
    1,385
    Nov 13, 2011
    TB12 the OG! I can dig it hahahahahaha
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

    33,597
    8,230
    Nov 14, 2011
    In the Patriots first SB win Brady threw for 150 yards and wins MVP :shrug:.
     
  4. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

    17,838
    5,228
    Dec 27, 2012
    One of Bradshaw's greatest quotes was, "If I had been accurate then Stallworth and Swann would have never made the H.O.F."
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  5. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

    5,388
    1,385
    Nov 13, 2011
    He is a pretty funny guy. Also said he always wished he'd have thrown the ball as good as he did in college. Goes to show you, that A: he was a tough QB who was ready to roll come time to dance. B: his receivers were pretty F'n spectacular to boot. The whole damn team was special. Lot of similarities between him and Ben if you look at it honestly. Both strong headed boneheads every which way from Sunday. Terry is the goat round here tho... But, he did always have the D! Hahahahahaha
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  6. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

    23,294
    2,328
    Oct 12, 2011
    The real GOAT.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  7. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

    7,338
    504
    Jan 23, 2018
    Bradshaw is highly underrated. He is a top 5 an of all time imo but by the numbers I would say Joe cool is the best in big moments. He never even threw a pick in the sb.
     
  8. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

    13,091
    2,478
    Oct 18, 2011
    Joe Cool would be my number 2. :thumbs up:
     
  9. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

    21,643
    3,388
    Nov 1, 2014
    02978832-2F63-420C-9544-6AB7BA2C5C7F.jpeg
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  10. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

    7,338
    504
    Jan 23, 2018
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  11. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

    8,467
    3,337
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lol. That Flaccos name came up in any thread that GOAT is mentioned. He's a goat alright. Just a different kind.
     
    • Hilarious Hilarious x 1
  12. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

    7,338
    504
    Jan 23, 2018
    Hate the ravens but got respect for them for doing something we have yet to do. Beat ne. And they outplayed ne on numerous occasions.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  13. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

    8,467
    3,337
    Jan 1, 2018
    Yeah, I agree, but that had a lot more to do with good coaching and defense than it did Flacco.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

    7,338
    504
    Jan 23, 2018
    Flacco tbh played great in those postseason runs. He outplayed Brady twice in the afc championship. But the defense and coaching does get a bulk of that credit as well.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

    8,467
    3,337
    Jan 1, 2018
    I hate Flacco, but he's not the worst. I'll give him his due. He's nowhere near either of the TB12s though which was kinda my point. He is however a big improvement over TD12(Trent Dilfer)
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

    7,338
    504
    Jan 23, 2018
    Of course he's not. He's a b- guy. Those are hall Of fame guys. He doesn't compare.
     
  17. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

    3,732
    801
    Oct 24, 2011
    I will never understand why people seem to want to rate QBs based on the length of their TD passes. So Bradshaw's SB TDs weren't for 45 yd and Brady's only 6, so what? It's not like one is worth more points than the other.

    John Steigerwald uses this argument, and I don't get it. I just seems like a lame attempt, flailing at straws, to find a justification as to what da Stillers of da '70s were superior to Tom Terrific's Pats.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 3
  18. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

    13,091
    2,478
    Oct 18, 2011
    Not sure if you are old enough to remember those Super Bowls Terry Bradshaw played in, but it's more than just the length of the TD passes. The point is that Bradshaw was lethal anywhere on the field. He had a BIG arm and he came up big when he needed to. In Super Bowl X, he and Swann put on quite a display against the Cowboys. Bradshaw delivered a TD pass to Swann late in the game and got his bell rung with a helmet to helmet shot that would get a player suspended today. He also threw some big time passes (not dink and dunk) to Swann and Stallworth in Super Bowl XIII. But I think Terry's best Super Bowl may have been Super Bowl XIV against the Rams. When that game was in doubt he threw two laser guided bombs to John Stallworth that would make the military proud! To me, that's what makes Bradshaw special. At pivotal points in the game, he didn't fold. He came up big with that big arm of his. His YPC are the best in Super Bowl history. He didn't dink and dunk his way down the field and then throw a short pass which was little more than a glorified run. So to your point, it's about a lot more than the length of the TD passes. It's about staying calm under pressure and delivering when he had to with big play after big play.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  19. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

    21,643
    3,388
    Nov 1, 2014
    lol then after all that he craps on the Steelers and salivates on the cowboys


    Glad he didn't lay down on those games though
     
  20. tyler christopher

    tyler christopher Well-Known Member

    617
    38
    Jan 20, 2016
    Anyone who thinks bradshaw is the greatest is clueless. I live in NY and Mike francessa is the big talkshow host here and I asked him years ago that if the 70s steelers are considered the greatest football team of alltime and had 11 allpro players then why were they only 2 point favorites over dallas in those superbowls and his response was " cause at quarterback, starbach was so much better than bradshaw it was ridiculous, if starbach was on pittsburgh they would never been in danger of losing games, you only see the highlights of those gorgeous bombs terry would throw but there were games were he just did not have it and knoll would completely took the ball out of his hands" He then when on to say that those steelers teams were absolutely the most talented he has ever seen but terry was the benefactor of it.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 3
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  21. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

    13,091
    2,478
    Oct 18, 2011
    Did I say Bradshaw was the greatest quarterback of all-time? Go back and re-read what I wrote. I said if I had one quarterback to win the Super Bowl it would be Terry Bradshaw. That's based on his performance in Super Bowls at critical times in the game. Staubach was a good quarterback and you can argue that he deserves to be higher than Bradshaw on the list of all-time great quarterbacks. But when it comes to Super Bowls, Staubach can't carry Bradshaw's jock strap! And I've heard the idiotic argument that "Bradshaw was just the benefactor of a great team" and I call bullcrap on that. They were a great team and Bradshaw had moments early in his career that he looked clueless. But he was an integral part of those 4 Super Bowl championships in the 70s and anyone who doesn't believe that is beyond clueless!
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  22. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

    3,732
    801
    Oct 24, 2011
    I'm plenty old enough to remember those Super Bowls. Somewhere in my junk drawer I have the ticket stub to OJ Simpsons first pro game, it was in the AFL and it cost $4.50

    There's a reason Bradshaw didn't dink/dunk back then, the rules of the time made it impossible, receivers would get killed anywhere need the line of scrimmage. If Bradshaw played today he'd dink dunk too.

    But let's not forget, Bradshaw threw a lot of picks too. And he threw for a Bortles-esque 94 yds in his first SB.

    A great player on a great team, no doubt. But D and a running game were more important then. Today the passing game rules, and I would argue that the QB is more important in today's game than ever before.
     
  23. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

    13,091
    2,478
    Oct 18, 2011
    Oh no doubt. If Bradshaw played in today's age of NFL instant gratification, I'm not sure he would have developed into the quarterback he ultimately became. Noll had loads of patience with him and it paid off. But there are those that attempt to discount what Bradshaw did at pivotal points in Super Bowls. I'll give you that he was more or less a game manager in Super Bowl IX, but if you're old enough to remember Super Bowls X, XIII and XIV, I don't understand how you can dispute what a key role he played in those games.
     
  24. tyler christopher

    tyler christopher Well-Known Member

    617
    38
    Jan 20, 2016

    I was not quoting you. There are a few people calling him the GOAT on here but picking bradshaw is ridiculous to win any one game. They just did the top 20 qbacks on nfl network 2 days ago and he did not even make the top 20, so what does that tell you. As big of steeler fan I am and I was young in the 70s but I remember the big games I always remember my father saying " terry makes me nervous" Now I go on youtube and I watched evry playoff game since the dolphins steelers 72 through out the whole 70s and Terry is not among the greats. Not even close......
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  25. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

    13,091
    2,478
    Oct 18, 2011
    And to your point about receivers getting killed at the line of scrimmage back in the 70s, I would argue that receivers got killed at the line of scrimmage and ALL THE WAY DOWN THE FREAKING FOOTBALL FIELD! Thanks to Mel Blount, they changed the rule. Don't you think an argument could be made that in today's NFL, Bradshaw, Swann and Stallworth would have field day throwing the ball down the field since a DB can't breathe on them beyond 5 yards?
     

Share This Page

Welcome to the ultimate resource for Steelers fans. Sign Up Here!