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Where would this team be without having to protect egos?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Watt Wack, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    Wait, before you scoff at the premise as just more bitter anger, hear me out.

    The Steelers' knack for serving/protecting ego at the expense of the team is one of the key reasons they play 2nd fiddle to the Pats most years, as the Pats never make decisions to protect egos. Never.

    Examples?

    First and foremost, their need to promote themselves as the "smartest men in the room" when it comes to the draft regularly damages the team.

    How? Well, for one, when the fans/media establish team needs, the Steelers tend to purposely NOT give priority to said unit just to prove they are smarter than everyone else. Don't believe me?

    Then tell me, what did the team do when it obviously needed a QB post Bradshaw? While everyone else was clamoring to find a franchise QB, the Rooneys spent two decades trying to prove they didn't need one. Stoudt, Malone, Jim Miller, on and on. All the way too Ben.

    I knew immediately after the 2005 Super Bowl, we needed to address the OL. So did everyone else, but the team kept trying to prove everyone wrong by not prioritising the OL until they finally had to acquiesce starting with taking Pouncey with a first rounder, followed by Gilbert with a 2 and DD with another 1. But they wasted some of Ben's career by being in denial over it.

    Then they did the same with with CBs and we are still suffering from their arrogance.

    The ego protection also rears its ugly head after picks are made, as they are so slow to admit a mistake with a high pick, which is why Jarvy Jones last 3 years than he would on a Pats' team. Pats don't worry about admitting a mistake; they only care about fielding the best team. Even in JJ's last season, Tomlin tried to sell that JJ was "playing solid." What a joke.

    The signs are everywhere that this team has to protect egos over fielding the best team. How long did we suffer with Kordell after he was awful for so long? Rooneys didn't want to admit last contract they gave him was a bonehead move.
     
  2. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I want some of what you smoke.
     
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  3. Boomer

    Boomer Well-Known Member

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    Big headed egos have ruined the shot at several Super Bowls. The right coach could get that under control. Sorry couldn’t resist. That coach could be Tomlin but so far he’s shown no interest in doing so.
     
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  4. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    More nonsense and gibberish.
     
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  5. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    He's right in the ego protection mode; he is part of the "don't take any accountability for decisions" club.

    Just days before they "retired" Arians, MT gave a thumbs up comment about keeping him. It was obvious that it was not his call to keep or ditch but the Rooneys didn't want to accept responsibility for that decision, nor did they on dumping LeBeau. Man up. Stand up and say, "Yes, I made that call and here is why." It's better to be accountable - even though it will illuminate mistakes - than it is to live in obfuscation and dodging accountability.

    Who calls what plays when? Again, they apply subterfuge. No one wants to be accountable. It's the Steeler way.

    Media asking questions the Rooneys don't like because they are seeking the truth? Guess what? They lose their perks if reporters ask questions they don't like. It is bush league. You think a team could get away with that in NY? Good luck.

    This is a systemic problem, and it causes "fixes" to take so much longer, because they don't want to admit mistakes.

    When they gave Kordell a new, large contract, they refused to acknowledge when he was God awful. Why? Because that would be admitting the new contract was foolish.

    Tomlin described Jarvis Jones as having a "solid year" while he was just terrible. So bad, in fact, that when he was not retained, he couldn't make ANY other team's roster, not even as a back up. Kordell was so bad after being tossed from Pgh, that the Bears needed only a few games to know he stunk, and in Balt., they realized how horrid he was so quickly that they started a guy who was on his couch a week prior over allowing Kordell to be their QB.
     
  6. GoalLine

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  7. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    Then you should be able to refute the assertions in the context of logic, instead of making unspecific, blanket statements which prove absolutely nothing. Go ahead and explain how my assertions are not accurate, if you can. It should be effortless if everything stated is erroneous. So do it.
     
  8. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    Then you should be able to refute the assertions in the context of logic, instead of making unspecific, blanket statements which prove absolutely nothing. Go ahead and explain how my assertions are not accurate, if you can. It should be effortless if everything stated is erroneous. So do it.
     
  9. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    It ain't cheap.
     
  10. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    There’s no doubt in my mind. It couldn’t possibly be some schwag off the corner with the crap you dream up.
     
  11. GoalLine

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    Why should I be given the burden of using logic and facts when your post uses wild conjecture about their egos and being the smartest person in the room? Your pointing to draft patterns is no basis for fact of how they view drafts or personnel in those drafts and the mentality used in those decisions. You are making assumptions using hindsight of how those players panned out.

    [Edit] Additionally, my image retort was mostly in jest, although I do disagree with your assertion. I have agreed with some of your posts in the past. I apologize if you took my response as some sort of personal insult.
     
  12. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    No it isn't.
     
  13. BK99

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    I agree with some of what you're saying but I don't think it has to do with egos. I think the Steelers FO goes with best player available rather than reach to get a player of need. They have seemed willing to go after position needs recently but it isn't working out, and example is Artie Burns, almost every analyst said Burns was a reach in the first round and most said he was late 2nd or 3rd round prospect.

    The team grabbed him because they knew the secondary was horrendous. I believe it was one instance in which they were forced into a corner, they needed secondary help bad and the fans were sick of seeing them try to get lucky with a 6th round CB. I think this draft will be more of the same, they will have to take D-line or LBer early, I wouldn't mind either, but I'd like to see D-line, if Tuitt or Heyward get hurt there isn't anyone that can step up to play well.

    As for Kordell Stewart, he was pretty good, the problem was that Chan Gaily left and Kevin Gilbride ruined him by trying to turn him into a pocket passer, something he wasn't. Teams had to have a spy on him and it put guys in positions that he could make the throws, Gilbride changed his game and after that he kept trying to do the same thing and he was never the same.
     
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  14. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers wanted the CB from Houston that Cincy grabbed just ahead of us. Artie was the consolation prize and we saw some significant regression in his second season. Again, our defensive coaching staff is failing our young players. If anything shows an egotistical arrogance it's Mike Tomlin's refusal to make one change on his defensive coaching staff. Porter is his pal about town so he's lost all objectivity where he's concerned. Lake must have pictures is all I can figure. I'm still hoping that Mr. Rooney mandates that Tomlin make some much needed changes to the defensive coaching staff. Otherwise, they are just accepting the status quo in the name of being STABLE...
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  15. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Any proof of your claim about Tomlin and Porter?
     
  16. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, just the same things you've read. They pal around at high school football games and such. Circumstantial I know. Good thing this is a message board and not a court of law, huh?
     
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  17. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    They pal around? Don’t you mean their kids go to the same school and play sports there? Is there anything you won’t twist to suit your agenda?
     
  18. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely nothing! I'm devious that way!!! :roflmao:
     
  19. Watt Wack

    Watt Wack Well-Known Member

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    The only draft pick I am aware of the Rooneys admit they made the call was on Ben. Dumb ass Cowher wanted an OT who Philly drafted. And Colbert seems continuously angry for some reason.
     

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