Belicheck or Tomlin?

The fact that this is even a question show just how far we have to go... I want to know with the talent we have, how many super bowls we'd have if Belichick was our coach.We sure don't lose on Sunday with him....

 

Let's see what happens this weekend when NE and Jags go at it. If NE wins convincingly, what does that mean?

 

I'll step over the Tomlin aspect and just assume he got hit by a bus, had a sex scandal (very popular these days!) or something similar:

No. I can't get past the cheating. I greatly admire his dedication, incredible level of preparation, and the way he handles/uses his players. But no, I wouldn't want that ethical cloud to ever attach itself to the Pittsburgh franchise.

 

Jamie Collins.....he has never been heard from again as he dies a slow death in Cleveland

as for the original question, it like asking would you like beer or muddy water. I'd take BB, he gets his players ready and controls them.

 

Belichick is a great coach but check out his first 6 seasons.
A carpenter is usually as good as the tools he has to work with.

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You're kidding right? You look at half of the players around Brady now and you don't think he would thrive with AB, Bryant, Bell, Heath in the day, now JuJu? The lines are pretty much comparable. The only downgrade would be TE.

The only way I agree is if you are saying under this system vs Belichicks.

 

I just meant overall from the time Brady entered the league until the present. I know it's a chicken versus egg argument (is Belicheck good because of Brady or is Brady good because of Belicheck?) but I happen to believe Belicheck does more for Brady than Brady does for Belicheck.

I do agree that currently Brady would thrive with the players we now have on offense. I think any halfway decent quarterback would. Even the first ballot hall of famer Blake Bortles could thrive with the likes of Brown, Bell, JuJu, etc.

And yes to the system part of your response.

 

I gotcha. Yeah Brady would have never survived the beginning of his career here with the amount of his Roethlisberger took, Brady would be paralyzed now.

You know what I would have liked to see? What if Pittsburgh hired Tom Coughlin instead of Tomlin. That would truly be the unstoppable object meets the unmovable wall.

 

Comparing Belicheat to MT is like comparing a 1975 AMC Pacer to a Bugatti. Spygate seemed to follow Josh to Denver, did he try it too or was Josh the one who created it in the first place? Deflate the ball would be on Brady since he's the one throwing it. I'm sure Bill isn't clean as a whistle either but every coach in the league always tries to find out things about their opponents it's part of their job.

 

Has this message board officially jumped the shark now?

 

Hiring Belichek would mean multiple SB's for the Steelers. I'd fire my own mother if it meant hiring Belichek. We play to win and Belichek wins. He got Cleveland into the playoffs and who knows what would have happened if they hadn't announced they were moving the team. Pretty hard to play under those circumstances. He went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. He went 3-1 without Brady last year. He constantly trades away star players, from OL to LB'ers, only to continue racking up wins. Yeah, they're in a weak division, but it's not like they don't beat most of the good teams they end up playing.

 

Tom Coughlin is old school. If he were the coach here then we probably would get back to Steelers football on defense. Meaning stuffing the run, pressure on the quarterback, and making a lot of teams one-dimensional on offense.

 

And that's what I'm saying!!!

 

Would you really want Belichik to be your mother?

 

I really miss that though and honestly that was my biggest reservation with this turning the Steelers into the Manning Colts. Defense wins championships period. This year process it again as 3 of the remaining 4 teams are defense oriented. I miss the years of nasty defenses that set the time and struck fear in the opposing offenses.

Plus I feel that defensive players are just no nonsense. Offensive players are just drama and headaches too much. e Need the leaders on defense.

 

The board crashed on Sunday with the loss to the Jags. Bring those 2 to the Steelers and the board would burn down and melt all of our monitors.

 

This is why I became a Steelers fan to begin with. Sometimes I reminisce about the days of Greg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, Levon Kirkland, Jason Gildon, etc. I'd rather have a team built up with guys like that. Not like today with these idiots like Mike Mitchell and a defense that gets manhandled by a less talented Jaguars team.

How much will it suck if New England decimates Jacksonville tomorrow? I have a feeling they will thus making our coaching staff look silly. But we'll see what happens. That's why they play the games!

 

That "disciplinary coaching style" didn't work very well with Aaron Hernandez, did it?

 

Belichick is the greatest football coach who has ever walked the face of the earth, in my opinion.

I don't like him, but would take him over Tomlin or any other NFL coach 100 times out of 100.

 

I 100% agree. He can kick rocks. He’s a known cheater and let’s see just how great he is somewhere else. I’ll bet it’s going to happen and soon to.

 

That`s some dark "what if" scenario there. Give in to the dark side? LOL.

If Tomlin suddenly died of a heart attack, then the next day occurred your scenario, it would look scary possible and I would be having the mother of all mixed feelings about the possibility.

Then reality hits me. Why are we discussing the impossible? It ain`t happening.

 

Lloyd was my favorite player growing up. I miss that defense, absolutely crushed they didn't win Superbowl XXX, wanted that defense to get a championship. I'm hoping we get back to those days.

I can't stomach another cheater bowl. I'm honestly not even watching the game. If somehow the jags pull it off I'll watch a recap. Otherwise I'll be pulling hard for an NFC super bowl champ. Not looking too hopeful though with two epic choke franchises on the other side. Brady may have another gift wrapped ring. Jags I really feel are the only hope of stopping them.

 

Wondered what happened, but forgot about it due to the L.

 

I don't think it's really on the coaches to stop their players from committing murder. Besides, Hernandez apparently had very severe CTE. So there was likely no helping him. He was a ticking time bomb.

 

That "player's coaching style" isn't working too well with Mike Mitchell, LeVeon Bell and some of these other immature nitwits on the team either, is it? Are we playing the Pats in hell or Haiti today? How's that round two working out for Bell after he decided to mouth off about it AND about his freaking contract and possibly sitting out all of next year or even retiring? Oh, and then he decided to blow off the walk thru the day before the Jags game. Just because they haven't gone out and killed somebody doesn't mean there aren't serious problems with this football team!