Butler deserves more time

Well I'm just going by the fact Jacksonville had to struggle to get 10 points just a week earlier. They looked like a HS offense agains Buffalo and the greatest show on turf against us....
They should of been able to address both of the issues you stated against J vile and they couldn't. They still got ran all over and a deep pass was the back breaker. They had 2 weeks to prepare plus all season to fix it and they couldn't.....coaching?

 

Butler didn't fix the pass rush .PWP did so to speak . OK I didn't fix it but neither did he. The pass rush got better because we got Haden. If you want it to get even better get another man capable CB and a real Safety.

Must be able to cover first Haden made that big of a difference in the pass rush .

 

Outside of those aforementioned gap issues, over communitcation and playoff catastrophes, Butler has succeeded in allowing young talent to assist and contribute for the team.


Some of the issues do reside within Butler's shortcomings. Some of those issues however, befall on the players. Outside of Cameron Heyward;


Where are the leaders in the lockeroom? How are the younger defensive players supposed to step up and arise to the occassion when they are needed most? That is my personal area of frustration.


Vin-, oh excuse me, "Bince"? Mike Mitchell? Anyone not named Cameron Heyward? Hello?

 

For the life of me I can’t figure out why we play zone. We played man against the patriots and outside of gronk did very well. It upsets the hell out of me that we played so much zone against the jags when Bortles is so bad with accuracy.

 

Well I'd give you a shot over Butler.....Heyward is babbling about how it's not on the coaches,it's the players .Guys are trying to do too much and getting themselves out of position. He is claiming that they can fix it now but now they have to wait until next year......blah ,blah,blah. He said the exact thing after every loss this year. If it was something as simple as that then WTF is the problem? It sounds like BS to me. He's taking the high road but it's weak. If it's so simple ,why haven't they fixed it. Sounds to me like the coaches teaching of the system is flawed or are our guys just that dumb. I just can't see the coaches telling a player what he supposed to do and what his responsibilities are and then them going out and doing something totally different....I really think there are serious communication issues on this team from top to bottom. There are almost endless examples of communication issues both on and off the field.

 

There aren't enough leaders for sure. There is no accountability and it starts with Tomlin. The thing that really worries me is the regression of our young key players. Guys are expected to make the biggest jump their second season....Burns and Davis have clearly regressed. Dupree and Tuitt have regressed and Watt has been invisible the last 4 -5 games. I have no faith in Porter and Lake to develop our young guys,that's why those two at the least should of been sent packing. We aren't getting what we should be out of our young talent their development is being stunted....

 

I expected a lot more man coverage also. Especially seeing how badly Bortles threw in their game against he Bills. He doesn't seem to do well throwing into tight windows.

 

Burns will be in his 3rd yr, watt 2nd, dupree 4th year but missed most of second, tuitt and davis are young. Haden, first year in system and he missed some time. Sutton going into 2nd yr.

Get rid of mitchell and find a mlb with speed. Man they have potenial to be great not just good

Hargraves shows skills. I would like a bigger nt. Was hoping big dan would be that guy but that isnt looking good

I give butler and staff one more yr. The shazier injury was like losing ben on offense to me. It doesnt work without him

 

That statistic about backup quarterbacks is a bit misleading. Case Keenum is one if those three and he had a hell of a season.

 

And that, more than anything, is why Butler needs to go. Yes, the injuries to Haden and then Shazier were part of the problem, but that doesn't totally excuse the defense completely falling apart as the season went on. That was a really bad offense the Steelers couldn't stop this past Sunday. I know it was all about third downs and the red zone, but those things are huge.

Look at that game against the Jaguars more closely. They caught the Steelers completely unprepared on that first drive. Time and again, the Steelers were fooled badly and out of position. That is on the coaches as much as the players. That is on Butler. It's not the only problem with Butler, but it's certainly a big part of the argument. When it mattered most, his unit disintegrated. They were completely helpless against a bad offensive unit.

 

we played them in week 2.

 

The gap integrity thing was a problem all season. Butler never found a way to address it. He failed miserably in his attempts to adjust.

The big plays didn't manifest until six games in, but he Butler never found a way to address it. Even when Haden returned, the big plays kept on coming. Being a couple of fixes away, yet failing to come close to sorting either of those problems out during the season actually shows just how bad a job Butler did this season.

 

I am aware of that, but it is still misleading. If I remember correctly, he had a big game the very next week. The Steelers were legitimately good defensively early on, then they fell apart. That's the largest indictment of Butler.

The Patriots looked like crap early and they fixed their problems, like they always do. They did this despite also losing a stud linebacker and having other injuries. It's what good coaches do, make adjustments to improve things. The Steelers did nothing but get progressively worse as the season went on. The one strong performance against a Texans' offense that was a mess without Watson masked just how bad the late-season collapse really was.

 

it was his first start on a short week. he wasn't anywhere near the form he is now. i do agree however the texans game was smoke and mirrors. the texans didn't show up and seemed very disinterested.

 

And yet he was just fine immediately after and for the rest of the season. The defense really was that good against the pass early on, but man did it go to hell after that.

 

they looked good when the pass rush was getting home. if not they looked very very average all year. the run stopping was bad except after the bears game. they did well the next game but then lost it again. we have had bad tackling for several years now. bad angles to the ball. miscommunication. never have had it all together since butler took over. yes the hybrid was being put in, and the players were young, and we didn't have the right man coverage players, yadda yadda yadda.

personnel groupings were awful too. wilcox got an interception in the first game he played in and rarely ever saw the field again. haden, hilton, sutton are the best we have at corner. burns better put it together. get allen on the field. keep sensabaugh for spot duty. dump gay, mitchell, golden. i still say vince is a backup LB. we need better starter quality at the LB'er spot. i think TJ hit the wall later on in the season.

 

They did punt four times. We are far from Elite that is for sure

 

81 points in 2 playoff games?!?! how much more time does he need?

 

That is what I mean by falling apart at the end. The Green Bay and Baltimore games were late in the season. The Patriots game was decent given the competition, but it was also an example of the offense playing keep-away.

You also continue to leave out the second Cleveland game, which is just inaccurate. They made a horrible offense look good that day. They sat one starter from that unit, Heyward, and Alualu registered two sacks in his place.

The Jaguars' scoring numbers are boosted by them leading the league in defensive touchdowns. Also, watch the game. They Steelers had no answers at all defensively. The main reason they slowed the Jaguars down at times in the second half was Fournette's ankle injury. He clearly wasn't at top speed after he got hurt.

The worst part was if you watch the game closely, you can see how badly Butler was outcoached. His defense was not prepared for the way the Jaguars attacked it on the first drive. The got caught out of position repeatedly, including nobody picking up the fullback on Bortles' fourth-quarter touchdown pass. That was a defense in disarray and given the consistent issues with blown assignments all season, a significant part of the blame has to go on Butler and the rest of the defensive coaches.

 

Maybe those first 5 games were called by Butler and then Tomlin took over:

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...k-over-defensive-playcalling-last-season/amp/