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Grab Your Tin Foil Hats, I Have A Story To Tell

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by dexter402, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. santeesteel

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    No! That's just what they'd expect!!
     
  2. SteelerGlenn

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    Of course I want concrete evidence. I hear a lot of accusations flying around, but nothing more than theories and opinions. It's all nonsense. Show me proven facts.
     
  3. SteelCurtainBestEVA

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    Wow! WAY too much effort being wasted on none-sense!

    I understand the frustration but come on! In every conspiracy theory there are always tidbits of fact that seem to navigate out of control. As someone mentioned the Deflategate fiasco kinda kills this theory in my mind.
    Still lots of football to be played so I’m moving on to the next game as one great coach previously stated
     
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  4. THREE RIVER SHIVER

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    You sound like Johnny cochran.....If the glove don't fit u must acquit.....
     
  5. We need a change

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    People are upset because of what you see the the video below. This occurred this year and was reviewed by the same replay official.

     
  6. Clive From PIT

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    Don’t ask the question if you don’t want to hear the answer.
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  7. dobbler-33

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    That's the inconsistent **** that makes pills harder to swallow... Hope they can fix the rule or legalize zebra hunting on the plains of the good O'l USA. Hahahahaha... Wasn't our night either way they concocted it. On to Houston.
     
  8. NY STEELERFAN

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  9. sjromano

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    Sigh. I get what you're saying, and I see you put a lot of thought into that post, even if most here brush it off as "crazy talk".

    The one thing that sticks in my head after reading all of that - is... why? Why the Patriots? Why not the Steelers? After all, they are the most well-traveled fanbase in the WORLD. Why not the Cowboys? They were "America's Team" long before the Patriots were anyone of note. Why not the Cleveland Browns? Couldn't the same have been done to turn them from losers into "loveable" losers? Why not the Packers, after all, when you think of old school NFL, you think of Vince Lombardi's Packers. Heck, they named the NFL Championship trophy after him for that matter.

    So why the Patriots then? What makes them so special that Goodell and Co. would go through so much collusion just to make a random team like them their pets? Are you actually saying that 9/11 was the catalyst? I thought that, back then.. when the Eagles and Patriots were the flavor of the month at the time. I had it in my head that one of them was going to win, and I was right. Not that I'm saying it was collusion - perhaps it was just a coincidence that the Patriots won, when patriotism was all the rage and what this country needed at that time.

    If you are saying that 9/11 was the catalyst that has brought the Patriots from after thoughts to the sacred cow of the NFL - why still today? Do you believe that 16 years later, they'd still be pushing that angle?

    All I ask is... why.
     
  10. steelamazing

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    yes, the same replay official, this is not mere inconsistency, he said no conclusive evidence is why he did not overturn the call on the field, and I will ask the question again, in the last 16 years, has any call been reviewed and overturned that effected the Patriots to lose a game ?
     
  11. victimofchanges

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    Don't worry I am sure someone will give you a well thought out argument such as: "conspiracy theories" "crazy" or "nonsense".

    I don't know what I find more disturbing. The NFL's lack of integrity or Steeler fans defending this lack of integrity immediately after watching their team get the shaft to benefit the Patriots?

    Yup how is that a catch and JJ's wasn't?
     
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  12. SDOT

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    Well you know about 1) Spygate and 2) Deflategate 3) Our headsets going out in Gillette a few years ago. 4) Belichick not using his timeouts to give Brady a chance at the end of the Super Bowl against Seahawks. Which by the way he did last weekend against the Steelers. Then calling the perfect defense to stop a slant at the 1.

    Which ties into this next one 5) Peyton Manning heard from Ex Patriots that they bugged away locker rooms.

    Now, please tell me how they had enough evidence to overturn Jesse's touchdown which by the way I've been saying there isn't 100% proof which I thought you needed to overturn the call on the field. But not enough evidence to call this touchdown back.



    The same ref from our game made this call in the Patriots favor



    The same ref who has called the most penalties all season. 3 out of the 4 highest penalized games. Only found 2 penalties on the Patriots for 4 yards.



    How much proof do you need!!!?
     
  13. dexter402

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    Sdot stole my thunder, people asking for hard proof. I didn't list made up things, 98% of what I listed are cold hard facts, incidents that have been discovered and "punished". I did mention deflategate, but admittedly was done humorously, but in reality, playing with deflated balls was an advantage for them, especially in cold weather at Foxboro, much easier to hold on to and control. People who try to argue this fact with me, I reference Ben Jarvis Green Ellis. First four years in New England he never had a fumble, two years in Cincinnati he had 5, did he suddenly forget how to hang on to the ball?

    I also am glad Sdot brought up the communications in Foxboro, I completly forgot about it, and it doesn't just happen to the Steelers. Seriously, how is this acceptable and how could the League allow this to go on, apparently for many years.

    I ask again to those who do call it crazy or nonsense, what other team over the past 17 years has benefited as often as New England has for decesions by the league or officials?

    Remember, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
     
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  14. NY STEELERFAN

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    Wow have you not read this board after a loss, I think everyone form the waterboy to the league office gets blamed for it. With that said I don't sit here and complain about conspiracy theory's there is a place for that some where on the inter web. I come here to talk Steelers football bad calls are part of it, I do agree there is something going on with the favoritism but what am I suppose to do? Am I suppose to drive down to the league office and protest, I mean if all is true what people are saying(not just this thread but all of them) What is suppose to be done???

    I will tell you like I tell the youth I am around, this world we live in today it is to easy to point out what is wrong. Tell me how to fix it not just what the problem is and then we are getting some place. To think NFL fans don't see the favoritism towards the Pat's is nuts. I am surrounded by Jets and Bills fans and they complain about this all the time......again they complain nothing get done. Still waiting for someone to come up with an answer, and before you ask me to provide and answer I was not the one starting thread after thread about little green men!!!!!!!
     
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  15. SteelerGlenn

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    And till I see any of this proven in a court of law those are the type responses I'm going to give.
     
  16. Steel_Elvis

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    Personally, I think this was clearly a TD. He lands in bounds on both feet, then falls out of bounds and loses control. He was fully established in bounds with both feet down. Catch complete. The calls that I see being overturned are ones where the receiver is going to the ground during the act of making the catch.
     
  17. SteelerGlenn

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    I didn't really have time to review all of this nonsense. First thing why are you guys so hell-bent on proving this stuff to some random people on a message board?
    Something to keep in mind if you guys really believe the NFL is rigged then that means the Rooney's our beloved owners are involved too. Let that sink in for a minute.

    If you really believe any of this why would you watch any of these games including the Steelers?
    If you guys really believe the stuff then get together and go do something about it and stop driving everybody on the message board nuts about it.

    Until I see people getting hauled off in handcuffs then I'm not buying it.

    Can we just get back to talking about Steelers?
    And last thing, if Sdot has stole your thunder you got way bigger problems than the possibility of the NFL being rigged.
     
  18. Steel_Elvis

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    Do the Patriots cheat? Yes. Are they cheating in some way now that has not yet been detected? It would not surprise me. Does the NFL turn the other way? The absurd prosecution of deflate gate makes me say no. The NFL knew that they had caught the Pats, but the way that the game officials mishandled the balls eliminated any real evidence. The NFL spent millions to prosecute that case anyway, and did so because they wanted to make sure to punsish cheating that they knew was happening even if they couldn’t prove it. Hell, there was even an NFL rule calling for a $25k fine for tampering with footballs, and they decided to go way beyond that.

    I do think there’s a level of gross incompetence at the NFL offices when it comes to things like player discipline and use of replay, but the effects go way beyond the Patriots and Steelers. Did anyone see the call reversal in the Carolina vs Green Bay game where the replay official somehow figured out the exact hundredth of a second where the receiver’s left butt cheek hit in bounds and his right butt cheek hit out of bounds? It was perhaps even less indisputable than the reversal of the JJ catch.

    Personally, I just hate the way the NFL conducts its business in pretty much every respect now. They’ve rewarded incompetence with the Goodell extension, and the NFL product is suffering. Nobody understands why one guy gets a 1 game suspension and another gets none. Nobody knows what is and isn’t a catch. Nobody knows what “indisputable” means. As much as I find Jerry Jones to be a blowhard, he’s the one owner who sees what’s going on. The rest of the owners are looking at the increased revenues over the past decade, which occurred in spite of poor leadership at the league, and can’t look past that to see that the league’s leadership is jeopardizing that revenue.

    That’s my take anyway.
     
  19. strummerfan

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    The manning story says more about two people than it does the patriots. Manning was notoriously meticulous in his preparation and apparently also paranoid. The second person iit speaks about is you and the absurd lengths at which you go to connect dots.

    It rained on Tuesday for the last three years. That's proof it's going to rain on a Tuesday this year.
     
  20. AFan

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    if the NFL is in the bag for the Pats, and the refs are in on it, splain this to me?

    Rather than wait until the JJ play to intervene for the Evil Empire, why not call a hold or a block in the back on Juju's long pass? This stops the Steelers, puts them back to 2nd and 20 in their own 15 with 20 seconds burned up. It's a more subtle, less controversial way of throwing the game, and there's always a hold on every play.

    Funny thing about these conspirators, They're clever enough to act withou getting caught or anyone ratting them out. But apparently don't have the foresight to act in ways that draw less attention to themselves.
     
  21. CK 13

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  22. CK 13

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    Concrete evidence look no further then the NBA, enter Tim Donaghy. Their is no way the whole game can be scripted, but some officials with an envelope under the table? Or certain players? I questioned O'Dunghead after both gift picks.

    It's not a secret that goodell and kraft mac and cheese are bosom buddies. And don't give me the brady suspension crap, that was a PR move and mac and cheese behind closed door signed off on it.

    I want to believe the game isn't rigged. But I understand both sides of the argument. The cheats have gotten away with way to much to not to question...


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  23. SteelerGlenn

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    That's the concrete evidence? That the NBA is doing it. Get back to me when you have some verified actual proof. And not some YouTube videos of some bad calls.
     
  24. Diamond

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    Cooks not a catch according to the rule:

    Item 1. Player Going to the Ground. A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

    Item 2. Sideline Catches. If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of making a catch at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, or the pass is incomplete.

    Item 3. End Zone Catches. The requirements for a catch in the end zone are the same as the requirements for a catch in the field of play.
     
  25. victimofchanges

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    Wow I got nothing for these responses. I don't see the point in discussing this any further. You win. Lmao!
     

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