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Martavis Bryant...

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Daddymac10, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    On the deep ball, I thought MB made a terrible adjustment to the ball. He had no separation either. Blame both.
     
  2. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    as i stated him and Ben are a bad fit now.best for both sides to trade him asap.
     
  3. JAD

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    This is what happen last year during the playoffs. We cant rely only on AB and Bell like we do. When one of them gets hurt or not playing well, teams will find ways to stop the other. Quit forcing the ball to AB when doubled and tripled coverage, others have to be open. Quit force feeding Bell with so many touches with a good lead in the 4th quarter, because at some point your going to need your other backs.

    Again this team has super bowl talent on offense and they need to not be so predictable and spread the ball around some. I think one of Ben's drawbacks is before the play is even snapped he has his mind made sometimes that he is going to AB, especially on important third downs and in the end zones.

    Also have you noticed that ever since Jesse James said something about being out coached that he has not been targeted. We could of used him in the end zone yesterday. Just saying.
     
  4. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    He still thinks he's the victim in all of this. Hilarious. He still does not realize that he caused all of the problems to him self and screwed the team by failing drug tests. This is not a person who's going to grow up and become a team player. He belongs on the Bengals. Trade him to the Bengals for their last pick in the draft.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Short term memory around here. Didnt see anyone hating on Bryant when the team was averaging a TD more a game with him on the field before his suspension.

    Ben admitted it himself, he relies on AB too much but that wasnt the problem yesterday, 8 different people caught passes yesterday, it was just not many receptions overall, 15. Can contribute that to Cincys pass defense.

    Bryant probably isnt where he needs to be yet after missing so much football time but Ben cant throw deep anymore which is a big part of the problem. They need to try more slants with Bryant, use his speed to create mismatches.

    The offense is much more potent with the deep ball working to Bryant and its not even debatable.

    Its not just Bryant either, they need to get Juju more involved. The long TD was nice yesterday but they can do so much more with him. If you can make DC's worry about AB, Bell, Bryant and Juju its a heck of a lot better than just only being worried about AB and Bell.
     
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  6. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    I'd agree with what you are saying if Bryant was getting open and catching balls that are thrown to him. It seems like every game we try at least one deep ball to Bryant. I recall him dropping balls, not getting open, and making little effort. Yesterday not only did he create zero separation he didn't even see the ball coming. The look on Ben's face said it all. If I'm busting my a$$ every game and Bryant isn't I'd ignore him also. Would also like to know if Bryant is making mental errors.

    I see a few things related to Bryant not getting the ball. #1 Bryant - he's the cause of all of his problems but blames others. #2 This is a different offense now. This is Bell's offense. Bryant missed that while on his vacation. #3 AB is one of, if not THE, best WR in the NFL. So it shouldn't be such a mystery why Bryant isn't getting the reception he wants. I will also disagree with you on the deep routes... defenses have been trying to take away the deep routes from Ben. Everyone knows if Ben can beat you deep - game over. Our O-line is good enough to protect Ben on the deep routes. If it was there we'd be trying it more. I also think the deep routes will open up once defenses realize they are getting killed by Bell and Brown. If we can get a TE involved it would have a bigger impact.

    IMO I'd rather see us get the TE's more involved vs Bryant. Sure chicks dig the long ball, but if we can get 1st downs and draw safeties to our TE's it opens up everything. Also makes a huge impact on the redzone offense.
     
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  7. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Bryant still wants out, stay tuned.


    Who can replace him? Not rhetorical
     
  8. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    If in fact Bryant is throwing a tantrum and becoming a distraction... deactivate him. No one wants that selfish guy on their team. He's a moron to think anyone would make a trade for him.
     
  9. SDOT

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    Whatever you do, do not trade him! Hopefully we learned our lesson with Blount. Every team in the league needs a receiver. Brown has 200 yards on everybody. I'd be afraid to trade him to a crappy team then have the Chiefs or Patriots trade them for him. We are all in with this potentially being Bens last season. A pick right now does us nothing. I'd rather he be benched.

    Somebody needs to sit him down and explain, he's not being traded no matter what happens. So tell him and his dumbass gf to shut the **** up. 1 more tweet from any of them and your being benched for 2 years.
     
  10. Terrible Towelie

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    not sure if wed get mid round pick but u never know. people may be gambling on what he could do for them. id be happy with a 5th or 6th. id just get him away from the team that seem to slowly be getting better offensively. arguments and clicks between the offense would harm this team, though im not sure many would be with bryant on this.
     
  11. 65Toss-Power-Trap

    65Toss-Power-Trap Well-Known Member

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    This topic was discussed today on Espn and Foxsports. Apparently it is an actual thing now. Who knows, maybe Bryant has a come to jesus moment and pulls it together? The man has a ton of talent, and ideally, he starts to give 110% out there and becomes an asset again?
     
  12. Terrible Towelie

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    that wouldnt be a bad idea right now. maybe suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. idk. he just needs to work harder and show he can do it. hes pretty much been a one trick pony and im glad we chose not to throw the money to mike wallace and gave it to antonio brown.
     
  13. 58stillers

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    He will definitely jump "higher" :)

    Well maybe those clemson WR's aren't all that desirable after all. Sammy Watkins is on another team and has a whopping 29 targets, 18 receptions for 264 yards vs MB's 36 targets, 18 receptions, 234 yards.
     
  14. steel_ben7

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    I don't play Bryant against the Lions Sunday. This is now two weeks in a row of him doing this crap and now he is ripping one of his own teammates after a great divisional win. I make him inactive against the Lions and tell him to clear his head both this week and after the bye week and then comeback after that and decide whether or not he wants to be apart of this team this season. This crap has gone on long enough now and something needs to be done.
     
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  15. Spencer

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    The first play or pass to Bryant was a waste of play in my opinion. So tall, lanky for a guy his size to breakout from scrimmage and get in stride. Great for the win but, Haley is a scrub of a play caller
     
  16. The Glory Days

    The Glory Days Well-Known Member

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    I tried to keep quiet, but I want to complain just like Bryant.

    Dude, give it a rest already. You're way off and it's making you sound uninformed and ridiculous...kind of like Martavis.

    BEN IS NOT OVERLOOKING ANYONE.

    Last game completions:
    Brown 4
    Bell 3
    JuJu 2
    McDonald 2
    Bryant 1
    Grumble 1
    Rogers 1
    HeyBey 1

    No one is being force fed or overlooked or whatever else you are saying. It's just not true.

    Ben is distributing the ball to who he feels is giving him the best chance at completing the pass BASED ON SITUATION. And part of that is the receiver being OPEN.

    I'll throw something else at you as well. Receivers are sometimes added to plays as decoys with no intention of getting the ball. Bryant's contribution right now might be more to stretch the field to open up underneath stuff. If him running a go route opens up a slant or skinny post, then he needs to sell it and accept his role.

    And finally, if he wants more targets and more involvement, he needs to demonstrate that he's going to catch what is thrown to him regardless of accuracy or coverage. He needs to fight off or out jump defenders and TAKE the ball out of the air like a pit bull on a steak.
     
  17. stompin69

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    He can't seem to break a tackle to save his life or his job it seems. A brush on his ankle usually takes him down. He is no good running drag routes because of that, which for some damn reason he has been. I would send him on a go route every damn play, at least he would have to take a defender with him.
     
  18. uncblue012

    uncblue012 Well-Known Member

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    I agree Ben needs to make other throws, but it's so obvious he doesn't trust Bryant right now. The only person that can change that is Martavis.
     
  19. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Why would Ben throw it to Bryant more when he admitted to slowing up on one route and completely lost ball on another or at least I hope he lost it and didn’t just give zero effort.
     
  20. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Why not run easier routes to get him going, like 10 yard comeback or curl routes or quick slants?

    If everyone knows he is going deep then teams will scheme for it.
     
  21. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    97.5 the Fan out of Pittsburgh reported that Bryant called in sick today. I feel it's time to sit him down. He is not helping the team with his I want out talk, i'm better then JuJu, now calling in sick. And this is AFTER a solid win. Enough is enough.
     
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  22. SDOT

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    How can the team keep him but not have him eat up a roster spot? I'd bury him somewhere for the next 2 years. You know he will smoke weed again, get kicked out of NFL, and ruin his life. Then we will see how long that slore of a gf stays with him.
     
  23. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    It's going be hard for him.

    New recipe for winning is Bell to take the rock 25 + times.

    Ben throwing it 25 times roughly.

    You know Brown is getting 10 looks minimum.

    That leaves 15 passes. Which 5-6 will be short ones to Bell.

    That leaves 9-10 passes to the other guys.

    He's at most going to get 3-5 looks a game at most.

    That being said I'm tired of his childish behavior. You look like an idiot, acting this way when your team wins.
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. If the Steelers were losing, I could justify his complaints.
     
  25. VTSteelerfan

    VTSteelerfan Well-Known Member

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    Trade him for a second round pick there are other receivers on this team just chomping at the bit to get a chance..
     

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