Jersey Sales for Villanueva have skyrocketed

I just linked you to proof that the DoD pays for the patriotism you see in sports...

 

And another Billion is federally subsidized to NFL stadiums. It does not mean patriotism is bought and paid for in this country, Try telling AV his patriotism only exists because of money.

 

Interesting read about this passage here.
http://www.snopes.com/must-nfl-players-stand/

 

I'm sorry, but your argument is beyond silly. Doesn't matter what they did or didn't do 10 years ago. It's what they do now.
Also I'm going to have to do a bit of research. The 2009 thing doesn't sound right.

 

I bought a Villaneueva jersey today, a salute to service jersey. It will be the only Steelers jersey I will be wearing for the foreseeable future.

 

While the anthem continued to be a game-day fixture, NFL players typically stayed in the locker room for it.
There were exceptions, of course -- players observed the anthem after 9/11, and during Super Bowl games. But it wasn't until 2009 that players were mandated to be on the field for the song.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/us/nfl-national-anthem-trump-kaepernick-history-trnd/index.html

 

No, it does not appear in the NFL rule book. It's in the NFL operation manual which is an internal document. Well, at least to the Washington Post article it is.

 

Point?

 

Question: Why are people saying that FLAG!!!! instead of our/ The flag that sounds so much like an after thought.

 

NFL is around 97 years old. Being on the field for the anthem is something the NFL has only done for 8 years. There was no issue with the team staying in the tunnel like NFL teams had been doing for 80+ years. This is only a story because one player couldn't stay with the team.

 

Krappernut is a bummmm. Players even came out to say what does he know about sacrifice and injustice when he can't relate he's half white. It's because his career sucked and he needed all attention on him. Hope I never finds work again accept at Dairy Queen as a lot attentent. Never liked him in the first place any ways.

 

Not for me it's not. You keep repeating that over and over. Doesn't make it true.
I'm not going to get into anymore political debates. My views are mine and I've already shared them in other threads last night. No sense in sounding like a broken record.

 

Glenn do you believe that anyone who chose to put team above self was wrong to do so?

 

You can believe what you want but Steelers and Titans did the same exact protest. Type in Steelers on Twitter and it's hundreds of people posting pictures of AV "He stood alone" When his teammates were right behind him. "Mike Tomlin should be fired for condemning him" All Tomlin said was they couldn't agree on what to do so they decided as a team to stay in the tunnel. He wished AV stayed with his team. People on Twitter are taking the picture and twisting the narrative. Trying to make it seem like the Steelers all took a knee when they were all standing 5 steps behind him. Then go type in Titans on Twitter and no backlash because they didn't have someone standing in front of the team.

 

Do the Titans have any war veterans on their team?

Edited to add that I'm not trying to poke the bear or be a jerk, just make the point that AV is one of a kind in the NFL. I agree with what people have said about twisting the narrative to make it seem like the team abandoned him when they really didn't. He also respected the coach and stayed off the sideline.

 

I believe anyone who didn't come out and stand for the anthem was wrong.
I don't care about a guy sitting on his couch or what the did pre 2009. I care about someone not standing on purpose and making a whole spectacle out of it. That's my view. That's what works for me. Others my have different views.
That's it for me now. If you want to discuss it further we can PM.

 

That's fair, I don't like a team full of good honest men being called scum because they all decided like adults to not partake in something because it could divide the team and keep them from accomplishing their goals.

 

Stand and lock arms.. Problem solved. The Seahawks are full of loud mouth whiners, hardly surprising.. Their whole team was probably going to kneel anyhow since Mr. Bennett was a victim of police brutality . Titans look like little bitches too.

 

Yea, that's fake... the internet has been churning that A62-63 nonsense out for 48 hours now....

There is no such rule

 

I doubt anyone was even watching the Titans game. Lol

 

Ben's Facebook post:

I was unable to sleep last night and want to share my thoughts and feelings on our team’s decision to remain in the tunnel for the National Anthem yesterday. The idea was to be unified as a team when so much attention is paid to things dividing our country, but I wish we approached it differently. We did not want to appear divided on the sideline with some standing and some kneeling or sitting.

As a team, it was not a protest of the flag or the Anthem. I personally don’t believe the Anthem is ever the time to make any type of protest. For me, and many others on my team and around the league, it is a tribute to those who commit to serve and protect our country, current and past, especially the ones that made the ultimate sacrifice.

I appreciate the unique diversity in my team and throughout the league and completely support the call for social change and the pursuit of true equality. Moving forward, I hope standing for the Anthem shows solidarity as a nation, that we stand united in respect for the people on the front lines protecting our freedom and keeping us safe. God bless those men and women. -- Ben.


Seems to me he regrets his actions, not Villenueva's.

 

As someone who also served his country in foreign lands during the global war on terrorism, I plan on buying his jersey

 

I gonna say this, hope I dont get banned, and I am off my soap box.

I am ashamed of my beloved Steelers and their actions yesterday. Villenueva is a hero and deserves the utmost respect. To allow him to walk out alone, stand there alone, was just wrong. I have no problem with them kneeling, protesting, holding hands, whatever. But not during our national anthem. People like Villenueva gave a lot, some gave it all, to allow us as a country to have the freedoms that we do today. To kneel at that time is the same as spitting in the faces of all of these men and women as far as Im concerned.

As for me, at this time, I wont be watching my beloved Steelers. I would be lying if I said I never will again but at the moment, my country and our veterans deserve my respect. I bleed black and gold, I guess this year it will just have to be Penguin black and gold. GO PENS!!!