Steelers QB Joshua Dobbs' Development is Progressing

LJ should be MUCH better by now after all these years. I think his average is something like 1 interception per quarter played in the NFL...or not far off

 

Well, last season he had 2 ints, and played 2 full games... so I doubt that stat.

If you add 2015 as well to get his full career stats, you have to note that these are slightly unbalanced by 2 ints thrown against Seattle, when he was put in with 2 mins left and we were chasing the game, 2 TDs down (in a game where Ben had already thrown 2 INTs as well).

It's difficult to get a feel for averages for such limited playing time.

 

he also had a full game against the browns last year with many starters not playing. it makes a difference. sitting around for years doesn't make you better. just because he's had years in the system doesn't mean you just come in and the team doesn't miss a beat. heck lefty and charlie took steps back as backups compared to when they started. it's just a nature of the beast.

 

My issue with LJ is after this many years, he still has the deer in the headlights look. By now, that should be gone. That is a function of not having confidence in what you are doing.

 

I dunno. I didn't see that when he came in for Vick, or against the Pats.

 

i agree thig and as BF said about fan perception.

 

SBNation:

Draft profile for Landry Jones:

Strengths
Physically, Jones is what NFL teams are looking for in a pocket passer. He's big with a very good arm. He's sturdy and can absorb some of the punishment that a pocket passer is bound to take. He's similar to Tom Brady in terms of mobility - he has just enough to get around the pocket, but not much more. Where he differs from draft prospect Brady is in arm strength. Jones' arm is above average and he can make all NFL throws. Jones has thrown from under center and the shotgun, and his footwork, balance, and mechanics are all top-shelf.

Jones has the accuracy needed to fire into NFL passing windows. He's proven in the short passing game, something that the Oklahoma scheme emphasized. When Jones threw downfield, he was also very accurate, especially on the fade route and seam routes. I think Jones has untapped potential as a vertical passer. Oklahoma's offense schemed to create matchups in the shorter passing windows. Jones did have some plays where he threw downfield, where he showed good potential. Jones may be best in a vertical timing passing game.

Jones seems to be a leader. He's passionate, a hard worker, and takes the game seriously. His film study shows in game situations - he rarely lost to the same school twice in his four-year career. He's played 50 games for one of the best programs in college football, regularly played well, and won 39 games, including a 3-1 record in bowl games. Jones went 3-1 against Texas in the Red River Shootout, arguably Oklahoma's biggest game of every season, winning his last three games against the Longhorns.


This was the bottom line on landry 5 years ago, if he has corrected this weakness that will define his career:

BOTTOM LINE
The NFL-sized pocket passer can be decisive and flashes the accuracy to pick apart defenses at the next level. However, his tendency to get rattled under pressure is a major issue. Also, when things start to go downhill, he lacks a short memory; his confidence is shaken. He is also inconsistent in his reads and decision making.

 

Another thing to consider; despite all his time with the team, outside of training camp LJ doesn't get many reps with the first teamers. It's hard to develop a rapport and trust with people you rarely play with. IMO LJ is a decent back-up. He won't win many games for you based on his talent, but he won't lose many for you either. And as long as you have Ben, that's what you need: a serviceable fill in until Ben can get back in.

 

Lotta people were saying that about Tomlin when he was being interviewed, and for a while after he was hired. Look how that turned out. Cerebral smarts don't necessarily translate to game time generalship, especially in the heat of battle.

 

Spare me the Tomlin sucks bs. Tomlin is a damn good coach and we are lucky to have him. In case you've been living in a cellar we have never had a losing season with tomlin leading the team. He's even managed to do that despite rebuilding almost the entire roster. With that being said that doesn't have anything to do with Dobb's intelligence. He's doing exactly what he should be doing listening and learning.

 

Landry Jones sucks. And like PWP said earlier and we have all witnessed, when Ben is out, the Steelers chance of winning goes down dramatically. It would be the same case with Dobbs back there.

I don't hate Dobbs, but after watching him start here in Knoxville the past 3 years, I was glad to see him graduate and be gone so UT can let a more capable QB get a shot. He was an average college QB at best and only because he is mobile and shifty when he gets out of the pocket. He has never been a good passer and the majority of his completions were because of heroic efforts by his WRs at UT. This isn't college FB and his ability to scramble won't translate to the same success in the NFL.

I tend to agree with the comparison to Dennis Dixon and would be shocked but happy if he can develop into an NFL caliber QB. Not even talking about starting caliber, but even just a backup. Josh is a great guy, but his forte is in aerospace engineering. I hope he proves me wrong because I do really like him.

 

F#×k tomlin

 

I'm anxious to see a preseason game. If dobbs is able to move the ball and get a couple of td's. Then he should be promoted to 2nd string. Ive watched LJ struggle against defenses 5th, 6th string and players that will be cut. Last years Beowns game was the nail in the coffin. Yes, we won but boy did he keep the brownies in the game

 

The "BOTTOM LINE" was a good guess, but what we have seen so far is more of the negatives and only brief periods of the positives that were predicted. I suspect he is a slow learner on the NFL level. If he had a full season, he would be half way decent by the end, but that will probably never happen now.

 

Wonderful insight... Informative.

Wow! I've never looked at it that way before... You mean, when our future HoF QB goes out of the game, we have less chance of winning??? Lol

 

Crawl back under your bridge.

 

The village idiot is back.

 

There is one thing I know about LJ. He is a back-up quarterback. Name one team that goes, "oh well are starter went down. The next guys is just as good." They may say, "Oh well the next one is just as bad." Typically teams with franchise qbs have crappy back ups. Just something you have to live with. The hope is that whenever Ben is done we have someone besides LJ to step in. Basically what I mean is none of this matters. Ben is it. The team goes as he goes. Have you heard that before????

 

Dobbs isn't going to be #2 this season unless there is a injury at the position.

 

They aren't going to cut a guy who just signed a contract extension.

 

The steelers have seen what LJ brings to the table and for four seasons, I believe, this guy has improved...yes...but not enough to say that he cant be unseated.

 

Big difference, their starters played against our backups and LJ still had the better game than their QBs throwing for 3 TDs and the game winner in OT, back ups dont get a lot of starts in this league, the cards drew stanton for example has 13 starts in 10 years, dallas backup kellen moore has two starts in 5 years and was IR in 2016......

 

This is exactly why I don't understand how/why he is still on the team. I don't know what the coaches see in him that he's here five years now. I always considered a backup nowadays as one who could potentially start in the future. That is not him. And he'll end up taking 95% of the snaps in preseason like he always does.