Trade Back

I know we never do this but this year I feel we have a great opportunity if things fall right. The team I feel we can deal with is SF, they have a lot of picks and there is a chance they don't take a QB with their first pick. Let's say one of Kizer, Watson, Trubisky or Mahomes are still on the board when we pick. Now let's also make sure we have at least 4 guys we have ranked close enough, (Watt, Obi, Jackson, Harris and White) what would it hurt to trade back get a guy we like and also gain a 4th or 5th rounder? There is a lot of talk that after the first round there is a 24 hour period where teams can wheel and deal and the first pick in the second round could get traded, this is what makes our pick at 30 worth more.

This draft is loaded and if we could move back 4 spots and not lose out on a player that we like and gain another pick why not? Drafting at 30 is an advantage this year with this talented class and I hope our front office looks at this. I hear a lot of people talk about how teams get to regroup after the first round and try to make a deal for the first pick on day two. I don't want to trade back if we don't have 4 top guys still on the board. I want the Steelers to draft one of the guys they feel are their top targets but I am confident with the talent in this draft there will be more than 4 left to choose from.....thoughts on the trade back?

 

This is a very good point one that I didn't consider. I do agree however let's look at the other side of that. If you do trade out you will then have a chance to have 2 guys for 4 years(not sure how long a 4th or 5th round guy is signed for) instead of one for 5. With the draft being such a crap shoot I have no problem, for example passing on Watt at 30 to gain another pick and end up with Harris at 34. I do understand if others don't feel that way and I guess it will all depend on who is left when we are picking as well.

 

I will also counter with this then, if we trade out of the first then we don't have to stay up late to watch our pick. You know how hard it is to get to sleep after being so excited or pissed and work the next day comes so early. Also think of how much more fun the later rounds will be when we get to pick twice.......

 

I agree with both Steel and Blast. Trading down is not something I would consider either.



Kevin Colbert has proven to be a talent seeking genius when it comes to finding the players he needs. Sure.. not all will work out but those that do generally are reasons why we have been the second most successful NFL team since 1990 (New England ranks first in this regard).



For every Jarvis Jones, there has been either a LaMar Woodley (pre injury) or a Troy Polamalu for Kevin.

 

Crap that's correct.......damn man that would be a kick in the nuts!!!!

 

I don't disagree with that, KC and the front office do a very good job. We historically never trade back and it has been pretty good. I look at it like this our front office is good, this draft is loaded with talent why not give KC more shot at getting talent? Let's face it we are only talking 4 picks, I am pretty sure there are going to be way more than 4 players left on the board that will make all our mouths water. jmo and something to talk about until draft day.

 

To me the largest issue with trading out of the first, and I'm all for it honestly if we don't move back too far, is that you need a trading partner. Who is that going to be?

 

SF, they have picks and if they pass on a QB with their 1st pick and one slides where we are picking it could be a nice move depending who is left.

 

That 30 pick on the trade value scale isnt worth much, only 620 points, a top 5 2 pick is worth 580 at 1 to 520 at 5, so if they get a top 5, 2 pick the best they can pair with it in point value is a 6-7 pick, they can do better trading up a few spots than they can trading down....

 

to get a second and third, your looking at the Panthers (8 in the second, 9 in the third). 2nd and 4th, Now your up to around 4th in the second and third.

 

I think the 5th year option adds value that isn't captured on the trade value chart. San Fran would covet that if they are targeting a QB with that pick. One more year in the system and they would have to pay more than the chart imo.

I was advocating trading down earlier, but that was all based on landing a starter capable OLB in FA. Nick Perry being my target early then Conner Barwin. But since that failed to materialize I would just rather stay put and hope they get an OLB in rnd 1, because I don't like the options in rnd 2. That's if the players I expect to be available in rnd 2 is correct.