Combine Talk

josh jones a 6-1 220lb. flyer that hits well, shaquill griffen (whom we've met with) and awuzie helped themselves today also. awuzie could play slot or FS.

 

SJ had a good day and Mayock even compared his skills to that of Peters. I agree the combine gets to much attention. I am not big on the combine I like to see what these guys do in the game. JMO

Here is a good read:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ackson-sidney-jones-shine-among-deep-db-class

 

This is not even accounting for his character issues either.

 

Well I am not saying the combine is junk I am just saying stiff hips poor footwork etc show up in game film. As far as competition goes well you are looking at it wrong, don't look at the results look at the ability. For example Matakevich had big numbers as far as tackles in college, however he didn't test well and so many said he was slow. If he was so slow why was he in on so many tackles.....the answer is cause he is smart and can read the play. The combine don't show that. jmo

I like a lot of the drills there heck me and a few fathers use them with our kids and their teammates during our summer drills. But I do not think a guy should be or not be drafted cause he did a drill well or he ran fast or jumped high. I need more, I need to see this guy in action and I need to see him make plays. Does a CB fall for a double move or can he read the run fast enough.

 

Well I apologize if you took offense for me saying your looking at it wrong, didn't mean no disrespect let me rephrase it. I look at competition level DIFFERENT, there are plenty of small school guys that do well and there are plenty of guys who don't get drafted(JH) or drafted low(AB and Brady) who turn out to be studs. This is an age old battle and if anyone could figure it out they would hit on every prospect and win every year.

I am not saying the combine isn't useful I am just saying a guy shouldn't fly up the charts based on it. Let's look at WR Ross, the dude lit up the combine with his 40. Now does he climb up cause of the 40, cause all that I have read on him was he was fast which he proved. That 40 shouldn't have made him climb cause so many knew he was probably the fastest guy there. Every year there are guys that surprise and that is great, I remember Dustin Keller lit up the combine and moved way up. IMO that shouldn't happen, yes the measurable are great and yeah the drills are very useful my problem is with it shooting a guy way up. JMO

 

I do like the drills but just can't put a guy way up on my board cause of drills.....show me that on the field. Like I said I am not against the combine it does have good dills, I heard PK say on Sirius yesterday that the 2 most important things at the combine were the interviews and the measurable.

Oh and I agree the 40 is overrated, the think about the combine for me is a chance to see guys I never would of watched. Now I am talking about me not a NFL team, imo all NFL teams should know all they can about everyone since that is their job. Me I am a casual fan who comes to a message board(while working lol) to talk with all you guys about a handful of prospects.

 

I love this graft class over all, WR-TE-CB-OLB-RB are all super deep and yeah you have 1st rounders in there but the talent imo don't fall off to far for rounds 2-4. Check out Cutrer, I talked about him before not much film on him but the little I saw I liked a ton.....very comparable to Harlan Miller for me from last year.

If you can't tell for my post I try to find the 3-5 round gems. I feel there is so much info on the 1st two round guys that I concentrate more about later on. I love the Shrine game and it helps with the later round guys too.

 

Miller drafted round 6, and a steal at that by the way....

 

Joe Haden had bad numbers at the combine ran a 4.7, then improved his time at his pro day to become a first round pick.

 

isn't that the guy that sales beer in our section?