Fire Keith Butler

isn't that what i said?

 

I think in a way ,I think you said guys who can do all real well..I don't think we can find that many guys that good...I don't think the other Teams have guys who can do it all really well either...That is my point of having more DL to help the smaller speedy guys stay cleaner so they can run to the ball when needed... So I think the difference in our views is that our 3-4 scheme can work I don't think it can....

 

my defense next year would look something like this:

tuitt hargraves heyward
dupree shazier josh harvey-clemons t.j.watt
burns adoree jackson
davis desmond king

 

Not bad Mac would be better than what we have now , you for sure got some more speed on the field ...Sadly it will probably still be Gay,Ross,Mitchelle and Timmons again...

 

Its sad ...how soon we forget. We went a winning streak in spite of inferior coaching. Weather, injuries to opposing qbs,and other things factored into that win streak. But, when push came to shove and we had to beat a bonefide team...our coaches game plan failed us miserably. You can deny it all you want...there has not been any improvement with Butler as def coach. Bottom line... You can call names or sit up on your high chair and not come to the realization of what is seen on the field. And like I said before...he's not the coordinator that need to go before this team misses its window of opportunity to win a Superbowl. 11-5...lol...paper champions. We should've been 14-2 with homefoeld advantage throughour

 

Chris Harris was talking on NFL Network tonight and he said the way he thinks to beat the pats and the way Denver thought it best to play them was to get physical with their receivers. That's what I was screaming before the game and that's what I'm screaming now. He said though that Atlanta plays a ton of zone and they have a hard time getting to the qb. What's funny is that Atlanta was questioning our game plan but will honestly probably wind up trying to utilize the same plan. He said one thing that he thinks is gonna really hurt Atlanta is the fact that they don't have a good veteran presence to keep up with what he called "the most vicious no huddle" they've ever seen.

 

Mitchell needs to go as well as Timmons and Gay. Need a play making ballhawk FS which Mitchell is not. He can't cover a grill. He's all hit. And Timmons is great at the line but in space he is slow and can't cover well but Butler keeps on putting him in bad situations. Gay is just old. And done. I also worry about Harrison's playing time. If he comes back we need him to be situational pass rusher.

I know that Mitchell will be back, but an upgrade needs to be drafted. I believe that Vince Williams will be starting next season and they will draft an ILB somewhere.

 

Moronic

Factually incorrect

 

Never been a fan of Mitchell's outside of the handful of occasions where he showed something. He's a liability in coverage and hot headedness. Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see him replaced at all... Gay will probably end up in a reduced role. I don't see Timmons leaving yet and yes while I admire the hell out of silverback, we need someone to step up and take some snaps from him leaving him fresh legged for situational play.

 

Name an improvement...the only difference is we started rookies where DL probably wouldn't... Moron.

 

I think it's more about having an inovative D-coach like Quinn who can coach up what players he has and put them into a position to win, 3 of his rookies starting on defense are a 2nd round pick, a 4th round pick and an undrafted free agent, obviously they arent the top draft picks you would expect to be rookie starters, but quinn has them playing like one picks because he teaches them to play like 1 picks together.....

 

We were 3rd in overall defense.

Last year we were 21st.

I'd call that an improvement of sorts.

 

Why jettison Timmons when you mention it's the coaches fault? I though LT94 put it all on the field for his team. Butler can go suck an egg though, I agree.

 

we were bad at getting off the field on 3rd down. oh and not great on 4th down. missed tackles also. we are also bad when teams run screen plays. these have been ongoing under KB. adjustments need to be made.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/02/steelers-finish-bottom-third-vs-screens-2016/

 

Timmons is a gamer, no question, but he is a liability in coverage. So it is both scheme and the player. But yes, Butler should know that he is not good in coverage so keep him close to the line. Timmons has slowed down so if you resign him it will be much of the same. Great player in limited space, an opposing QB's dream in space. He has been the consummate professional and a great player but it's time to cut ties. Williams is next man up and looking in the draft. But we have some potential on the roster. Can't keep everyone and with the Brown cap killer coming up and franchising Bell and hopefully looking at locking up Tuitt decisions have to be made.

 

I agree, Timmons has lost a step in coverage. Butler should adjust, not LT94. That's KB's job. I still think they re-sign LT94 to a 2/3 yr deal. 2 years imo, but what can you do... Steelers won't leave that big of a hole at ILB coming up to the draft and FA. Just not how they operate. Foster and Cunningham are gone by the time they pick in the first so they will have to do their homework for the successive rounds. The need is big imo.

 

The improvement was referring to the improvement from DL's coaching and KB's defense.

 

Ok. In 2014 under Lebeau, we were 18th in overall defense.


There's a small insight into coaching differences here, though it doesn't sound like they're huge. http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/0...ebeau-conservative-butler-always-wants-bring/

 

And we fired him....lol

 

The improvement is in the results. Moron.

 

Not even close.



The improvement is within those "fluffy" cushions Butler likes to give opposing wide receivers!