Ben retiring?

Okay, your right, Cowher was able to field great defenses without having great QB before Ben. But if we dont have Ben now, we got no offense and not a great defense. I pity the day this coaching staff dosent have Ben, and what this team will do. I think their weakness will show up real fast.

 

Don't USC quarterbacks scare you? They do me. Who was the last good Trojan QB in the league, and don't say Carson Palmer, I can't think of a more overrated QB than him. Winners aren't coming out of USC.

 

Interesting article on Palmer, Leinart and Sanchez.

 

What baggage are you referring to? I pay cursory attention to other teams/players. However, I have not heard of Kaepernick having off-field issues/drama.

 

If this is what he is trying to accomplish, then he has chosen a poor way to do it. He is putting too much out into the media. He might as well be FB live with it.

 

And he's not wrong. They didn't. For all that has been said, if Coates and Hamilton pull in those deep balls and TD passes, then that would have been a completely different game. If the O-Line would have made the push after Jesse James catch at the goal line, then it would have been a different game.

If all of those plays had been made, then the Steelers likely win the game. Even if they made just half of those plays then it would have at least been competitive.

I'll give it to Bell: He went out there and tried with a groin injury. But that's just the kind of guy he is. He wants to play. He wants the ball.

On defense, I can't call it. I'm hearing that the CBs were getting eaten up when the coaches tried man coverage plays. I need to go back a re-watch the game to tell. It's too early for me to view that game again. The zone coverage was based on the rushers getting to Brady and that didn't happen. You can beat Brady with zone coverage but your rushers have to get there in about 3 seconds. I'm guessing at the time. I know Brady can get that ball out in an average under 3 seconds so there are probably a good amount of plays in which 3+ seconds are required (3rd and long, etc.). Bud Dupree couldn't get past his man for most of the game. My point is that the rookies probably were not ready to face Brady and the Pats. Hell, they even had Mitchell fooled on the flea flicker and he's a vet in the league. As most have said, that was just a good play.

So, on offense and defense, the young players just didn't get it done. Ben isn't wrong about that.

However, I think this experience will sit with the young guys and they will be made better for it.

 

I like what I saw from Eli Rogers.

 

Preach.

 

Uh, not heard of his Un-American protests, I'd say that's some baggage.... No thanks. I'd rather see guys pay respect to the country like this http://www.today.com/news/virginia-...ans-teach-team-respect-national-anthem-t79271 rather than Kapernick's BS protest.

 

Me too I think he can do well in this system. Would like to see more of what he can do for the PS. He seems to have a good sense, speed and good hands.

 

Would you guys spend a 1st rd pick on someone like Kizer if they're there at pick 30? I would.

 

I don't think Ben will retire, but we do need to think about drafting a QB to back him up and take over in a couple years. I would love for them to get DeShaun Watson but they'd have to trade up a lot to get him. I do think it would be worth it though. Without a really good QB we'll be the team we were before we drafted Ben.

 

If the Steelers signed either Romo or Kaepernick I don't think I could support them anymore albeit for different reasons. Romo is a choke artist and I just couldn't root for a former Cowboy. Kaepernick is a POS and I vowed if he played for my team I wouldn't support them. Some things are bigger than football, even my beloved Steelers.

 

Ben has not been right his legs are all but gone ..I have seen this coming and all have said I am crazy ..He might decide to play 1 more year that's all I see him playing...I bet he will have to have 2 surgeries one on his knee and 1 on his shoulder because he threw it out because of the knee...

 

Cowher made it to a Super Bowl without Ben and lost. Neil was not a Super Bowl or star caliber quarterback in my opinion. They made it to the Super on defense and Cowhers ability of being a good to above a good coach in my opinion. I would hate to see where are team would be right now without Ben. No way would they have the success Cowher had without Ben.

 

We can agree to disagree about Kaepernick's display of his protected American rights.

 

Apples to Oranges my friend...What was the ratio of Neil's pay to salary cap compared to Ben's?? Cowher (love him) was using all the cap money on defense...in fact you can say he really never paid the QB top money as Ben was in his rookie contract the 3 years Cowher coached him.

 

This. I said it that even if we had the right gameplan we likely couldn't stop them. We can't generate pressure with 3-4 guys like Denver, Baltimore did. Blitzing him is stupid, and their coaching exploits weaknesses and mismatches.

Our offense needs to get more explosive and consistent.

Defense just needs experience plus 1-2 splash players to be elite.

Keep the core guys and let's go for that final push next year

 

Me too, like what I saw from Rodgers, my biggest grip with the play calling this year is I didnt think we used him enough and tried too hard at times to go downfield deep, especially to Coates and on 3 and 1 yard to go. At times Ben didnt look his way.

 

Yes I am surprised they tried the long shots . I have not seen the numbers but I am guessing the success rate probably did not justify the risk

 

Throwing deep to a player who is known to drop passes vs a team that rarely makes mistakes on arguably the biggest game when you only need 1 yard...

That play showed me we lost

 

This is years in the making. If I had to guess, he already tried doing it the "right way" long ago...

 

I have a feeling Ben is going to give them a ultimatum. Make some changes to help us beat the Pats or I'm walking. I'm 45 years old and this in the worst AFCCG lost that I can remember. My God that was embarrassing.

 

And if Ben wasn't here at this time or when he does go and if we still have this defense that is less than Cowhers defense, our Steelers will be in trouble. Ben is the reason our team is on the map.