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Most coaches want their own assistants, my post was quite clear in what I meant. Teams do not get rid of their top players

 

Oh.. I see.



Well Blast.. if you want to know more about bias tendencies, you are witnessing the negative bias, focalism, and the continued influence effect to name a few.


Not to mention the tried and true false consensus effect from fans bickering among each other to discuss a common topic.

 

DeMarcus Ware then from the Cowboys? Josh Norman from the Panthers? Martellus Bennet from the Bears? Chandler Jones of the Patriots?


These are not top players of their respective organizations to you?

 

Sorry if I was a crank yesterday and thanks for the nod Glenn... We were all pissed plain and simple and seem to revisit these losses that are asinine on paper when you get down to it.

Yes any given Sunday is a real thing and our steelers are not immune to it. 18-18 under tomlin when losing teams are concerned... That's damn near atleast 2 a year which doesn't seem like a big deal but it does stick out when we've had a pretty competitive division and can't seem to land a home spot for the playoffs due to a handful of variables usually concerning losses to teams that the higher seeded teams put away.

We all go back and forth on the coaches vs the players vs the front office thing yearly. All have their achievements and their failures week in week out.

Losses are part of the game as are injuries and it sucks that our guys are having more than their fair share of injuries the last few years, but uninspired play cannot be overlooked.

If our coaching staff does not live in their fears and it seems they do not as that approach would explain the almost non existent adjustments that we all have seen time and time again then I'm fine with knowing that and it explains a lot. However it seems pig headed, lame, and pretty lax on their parts.

I've been around a ton of coaches who say there is no need to plan, just execute. And I agree that if you have all the ingredients to line up inflict your will and force the opposition to stop you then yes, you're team will look good the majority of the time.

I've also been around coaches that are smart enough to (although boasting the same approach) use their eyes and see somethings amiss and atleast try to adjust things in game time while holding to their original thought of were still better, and hey nice adjustment to us... Now I'm gonna yank some chains of my own.

I don't see our coaches adapt and that's why I get pissed off. Even if they did and just could not yield a positive, I'd like to see them preserve their golden ponies for the next week instead of caving to players desires or just flat out ignoring their investment and it's worth.

Just my opinion, I think the coaching staff ate 2/3s of a turd yesterday and the players the rest, but it's on the coaches it really is.

Not calling for anybody's head at all, but wouldn't mind some folks living in their fears of what happens when you got a habit of doing bone headed stuff or taking the day off etc... Be it the coaches, QB, the diva receiver, or the idiot safety. Nobody is scared of not doing their job and this is why this seems to a happen a little more so than on any given Sunday.

 

That's just silly. You either win enough games to make the playoffs, win your division, etc or you don't.

A conference loss is a conference loss

This is the NFL, there's the Pats as an outlier at one end, and the Browns as an outlier at the other. Everyone else is much closer to each other than season records imply

Play without your 2 best defenders on a team built on offense, while losing your franchise QB to injury.... I'm pissed too, but it's not like this is complicated analysis

 

What did I start?

 

I'll put it this way then since you're being obtuse, the Steelers are not going to get rid of Ben or Brown anytime soon, regardless of what happens with the coaching situation

 

Mk. Thank you for stating the obvious that there's what is the best team and the worst team. I hadn't thought of that. Neither had anyone else here. Thank you for your uncomplicated "analysis". It all makes so much sense now. I don't see how this board even existed before we had you to explain everything to us. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

 

I also highly doubt they are gonna get rid of Tomlin anytime soon. As a matter of fact, I won't be surprised if Tomlin is still here when Ben finally calls it quits.

 

? Hmm?...



You are the one who did state teams do not get rid of their top players in addition to stating coaches wanting their own guys did you not?

 

You're right no excuse for Ben to throw that first int into triple coverage , that was a rookie mistake just throw the ball away instead.

 

Josh Norman was a free agent. The Panthers couldn't afford him. Martellus Bennett was absolutely not a top player in Chicago despite being very talented. He was very critical of the starting QB as well as the organization and had made his thoughts public. It was no longer a good fit. Chandler Jones is a very good player but it's likely the Pats never would have paid him what he would have demanded come 2017 and they felt they could win without him, so they got rid of him before they lost him. The Pats do things differently than most teams, but obviously they are winning without him.
None of those players have the impact a starting QB or a top 3 WR in the league do. Head coaches typically want to bring in their own assistants and teams typically do not get rid of their top players, especially their starting QB and arguably the best WR in the game.

 

I bet the majority of those games Ben played like crap, with 2-3 turnovers.

 

I am only stating a purge due to the fact that one person cannot be the absolute downfall for a team unless that person is draconian by nature. As such, multiple parties have to be involved.

 

The downfall of the season with your avatar!


Ben, Cam, Ryan, and Bud's injuries are all your fault jeh; the defensive game plan and continuing to play down to the level of the competition! I hope you are satisfied!


You and your "Zombie Dark Magic" enchanting this team!

 

Welp... that does it. You're soooo on the naughty list. Welcome!

 

WOW, I hope ART II sees this.

 

Preperation before the game this is his/ his coaching staff's problem, not able to motivate players to play week in week out. Players are not
mentally prepared to play football week in week out. Flat out poor fundemental team is what I have seen from in his 10 years here.
Not only is his clock management bad, so is his preperation for other teams.

When Ben's gone he will be gone, he was handed the keys to Ferrari, so he should have a good won/lost record.

 

Dallas is 5-1 with a rookie QB and a defense every bit as untalented as ours. They've missed their best WR for several games.

Tomlin needs a loaded roster to have a shot at a Super Bowl. Maybe he'll finishing rebuilding from the last one he had in another five years.

#10YearPlan

 

Apparently you missed last season.

 

So many coaches would kill to have a HOF QB for their entire career, and to walk into a SB roster on day one.

Belichick must belly laugh watching our film. He's got a less talented roster and wins more every year.

 

you're welcome

 

They had no shot at a Super Bowl last year. I mean, mathematically, they were there and in the playoffs, but it was like being 1000 feet short of the peak of Everest with a broken back. New England would have beaten them by 30 had the corpse of Peyton Manning not beaten them.

And he only beat them because Vontaze Burfict and Pacman Jones handed them a victory the week before.

In a playoff game they were playing in only because Ryan Fitzpatrick choked in Buffalo in week 17, allowing the Steelers to back in the playoffs.

Because the week before, a classic Tomlin Turd loss to the Ryan Mallet-led Ravens knocked them out of playoff contention.

The Steelers beat Johnny Manziel, Austin Davis, AJ McCarron twice, Matt Hasslebeck, and Brock Osweiler, and Yinzers thought they were a Super Bowl team because of it.