Tomlin

Yeah that's what I wished for... Fairy dust for him And the rest of the clumsily lead defense. And the outclassed O line, and rest of the team... You nailed it.

Go steelers

 

Packers getting spanked by Dullass and fans are booing them. I hate dullass but they have a good team.

 

DUDE

this is a Tomlin thread

oops

THANKS TOMLIN

 

To me, we just straight up lost today. From start to finish, for whatever reason, we just got flat out beat. I don't even really feel all that upset about it. BUT this is a question for the two separate camps...

To the "It's Tomlin's Fault" camp: What would it take for you to give Tomlin credit?

To the "It's NEVER Tomlin's Fault" camp: What would it take for you TO blame Tomlin?

I'm honestly just asking this out of curiosity. I personally think today we got beat in all three phases of the game. From Tomlin right on down to Danny Smith. From Ben on down to Mike Mitchell. We all played like hot garbage. We all coached like hot garbage. It was just a total collective effort of suckage on the field and on the sidelines. But my two questions still stand. I would love to hear from both sides.

 

One of my best buddies is a die hard Pack fan and he's livid about the condition that team is in right now. I've seen a lot of their fans online begging for McCoy to be fired and Rodgers to be let go. Yeah. Seriously.

 

we were just sandbaggin

dont want to show our cards we worked on ALL THIS WEEK to the Pats

it is good stateeeegery

 

The coaches provided Ben with short options. If Ben didn't throw the ball that's on him.

Did anyone watch the SB champs lose to a poor Chargers team on Thurs night? The champs also loss to a poor Falcons team that went 8-8 last year. The Falcons loss to a poor Bucs team this year. A Bucs team that only went 6-10 last year (I can go on and on). Wait I'm confused. All these good teams losing to "poor" teams. What the heck is going on? Those types of games happen week to week. It's frustrating that people haven't figured parity out yet.

The reasons why the Steelers lose games sits right in the front of people's faces and they still look for reasons behind the scenes.

A big part of the issue was that the Steelers were terrible on 3rd down on offense. As a result, it's one reason why they loss the time of possession battle by almost a quarter. What game breaking TE do the Steelers have at this point that would had tore apart the Miami defense? Especially considering that Ben didn't play well.

 

You might have just taken the heat off of me BFT thanks. Hahahahahahaha, your questions will afford no clear cut answer. I don't know why we boast the record we do to #inferiorteams. I know there's ant given Sunday mojo going around, but lackluster play, motivation, etc... Whilst playing bottom feeder teams isn't really acceptable I guess thes days.

Sure, they don't execute plays, draw flags, throw picks, miss tackles etc... So Im Starting to wonder what coaches do around here anymore? Given the fact they field deflated uninterested teams that quit atleast a quarter of the time the last batch of seasons.

I get that for whatever reason we'll never stop a 3rd and long pass to the TE up the seam. It's been that way my whole life with this team. But, why can't we beat sub 500 teams consistently?

We beat "the other folks with their gimmes" (there u go burg)

 

It was a total team failure by the coaches and players, but I put most of the blame on the players do your job. Missed tackles, dropped ints, and O-line not blocking that's on the players.

 

The ones who were open underneath? The ones over thrown? Or the ones not looked at? Whom are you referencing?

Offensive game calling was ****!

 

Offensive game calling tends to look that way when the QB plays like ****!

 

It's not that it was tebow, dude is an athlete and a record setting collegiate QB. Had Lebeau not stacked the box and actually put people to defend the what if a pass over the top happens, we hammer em!

He did it once, Lebeau didn't take him seriously... He did it again and we lost.
This teams inability to adjust to anything is maddening going on years running.

 

It looks that way when the line don't do their job, or they leave an inept tackle out on an island or a TE who is improving, out on his lonesome to handle a pass rush. Or a whole offensive line that seemed overwhelmed?

Don't lay it all on Ben... Yeah he could've gotten rid of the ball this and that etc... But we're all used to that by now.

So I presume you're of the pin this loss on Ben variety? Okay I get it... Not a Landry fan by any means, but that's the smart coaching decision. Not your day sit down etc... No we run the ball with success get a 3rd and 1 and have Landry damn near throw a pick because he don't know when to chuck it away either. BAD COACHING.

hopefully Ben's MRI is cool and he's cool and they're cool.

But that Landry drive was bad coaching at the most crucial moment.

 

Oh for God's sake: the Broncos have WHO at QB right now?

 

We know what this team can do when the players do their jobs under this coaching staff. We know what this team can accomplish with Tomlin as the HC. When the players don't do their jobs it makes the coaches look bad. The playrs looked bad vs the Phins. When the team looks bad from year to year consistently then it's probably time for the ownership to take a hard look at the coaches, scouts, GM, ect.

 

since you couldn't read it well enough

never said game breaking TE's, I said with the injuries at WR and the yardage Miami was giving up to TE's this would have been the game to utilize them, even an average TE could be used to hit the short and intermediate routes and btw you said the same thing I did about Ben he didn't take the short stuff that was there.

 

In the meantime, just look good inconsistently against teams that are consistently a considered bottom feeder

 

I didn't lay it ALL on Ben. MOST of it falls at the feet of Ben though. It's been stated that Ben has a lot of control within this offense. He's the highest paid player, leader of the team, the QB, ect ect accolades. Ben only completed 55% of his passes today. That was below his season average of 64%.

There were times the line gave Ben adequate time and Ben didn't make the necessary plays. There were times that penalties hurt the offense. Almost nothing hurts a team more than turnovers. Ben threw 2 INTs. Very difficult to win games giving the ball away 2 times.

 

read the post I was responding to. he said no emotion. I assume he meant from tomlin. never said it equated to winning

 

trevor cinnamon

 

Doppler is a good dude. You shouldn't do that.

 

I'd considered myself in the middle. Tomlin has a big part in this loss and deserves some criticism, but if we're firing him then Ben gets the ax too along with the O-Line.
It's a loss and not an easy one to deal with, but with the injuries we have right now it's not the end of the world.

 

"Here's the painful truth. You don't have a clue what Tomlin is "allowed" or "not allowed" to do. Do I? No. That's why I don't make up nonsense to explain why we didn't win the last 8 Super Bowls"

Here is what I know Tomlin "didn't" do. He didn't come into town and clean house and get the staff he needed to do things the way he wanted. Was this because he wasn't allowed to? Or because it was his own decision? In the short-term, it worked fine. The Steelers won a sixth SB. But in the long run, it suggests that Tomlin has no philosophy, no way of doing things. He's a Tampa-2 guy, out of Dungy's coaching tree--albeit Noll's--and then ditched those roots for the 3-4. He has no idea what types of personnel are needed to run that D. He didn't in 2007, and he doesn't now, either. It most definitely shows, because over the past 4-5 seasons, I have never seen such poor defensive play from a Steelers team. That's going back 41 years.

There is no mindset with this football team. It's been that way for a long time.

 

No. And that's the point. It's not consistently the norm. If it were we'd be a team that consistently goes 5-11 each year...

The problem is that Steelers fans think all teams that haven't won a super bowl recently are wildly inferior teams that the steelers should breeze by even when ravaged by injuries

 

I don't think that's what fans think at all. I think fans think a 4-1 team shouldn't look so useless against a 1-5. Also the team flat out does have a bad record against teams with bad records and that's not even open for debate. It's not like people are pulling that out of thin air. Other teams might have just as bad of a record against bad records as we do but you don't justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. I actually can stomach losing games but what sucks for me is to watch us look so uninspired. I don't think this loss means the sky is falling at all. It was basically a divisional stalemate today since everyone else lost too but I'd at least like for them to come out and look like they're not morons. I pay a pretty penny for Sunday Ticket and would like to see them make me feel a little better about dropping that kind of money on them.