Week 2 Winners and Losers

But I've been done seen about everything when I've seen an elephant fly!

 

Elephants started flying in 1941.

Dumbo

 

Technically earlier because it was based on a children's story but Walt brought it to the masses during WW2. The point still stands that elephants CAN fly though. Lol!

 

After re-evaluating the game I'd like to say this. Even though in my heart of hearts, Boyd did not fumble. Bengals gotta know they lost that game themselves. That PI call that put them on 1st a goal was a bad call as well. Had they punched it in for 7, each fanbase would have 1 really bad call to complain about. However with 3 shots they failed against our red zone D. They gotta hang their hat on that.


I'm not including the Ozumah knee call because scores are reviewed, not potential scores, in the NFL. It was up to Marvin to challenge that and he didn't. Thats on him. Because 100% of refs in the league would have called on the field that he was out. A challenge flag would have easily allowed them to review and overturn that. I guarantee nobody saw Ozumah get pushed out and thought it was a TD in the same second.

And christ they had time. They were on offense, they didnt have to run the next play so quickly. Fouts and Eagle didnt even mention the knee til sometime in the next possession after like two commercial breaks. Til then I guarantee 95% of fans realized nothing.

 

I had conducted a study based on a players twitch vs. their explosive power.


What I had found was that players who had three cone times under 6.9 and short shuttles under 4.4 were more likely to succeed than those who did not. However.. exceptions like Bud Dupree are seldom seen given his explosive power surpasses that of even the likes if J.J. Watt and even Jadeveon Clowney.


On that note.. I am very confident that Bur can and will put it together if/when he returns. Sports Hernia injuries are not as career threatening as they once were anymore. Bud will be back to his old physical self. It is his return to the speed of the game is what I will be looking at.

 

Hahaha You didn't conduct a study. You're attempting to pass off a well known measure as something you developed. Clownish.

 

I have a lot of the same winners and losers as many here. I thought the defense as a whole featured both aspects.

Hustle by the d-line was outstanding imo. Tuitt especially. Hargrave on the horse collar tackle was also a great example. It's becoming a nice trend. The red zone defense was another winner, they made some good stands when Cinci got close.

Tackling was an issue again and hopefully the youngsters continue working on that. Gay and Mitchell had some nice pops though.

 

I'd also like to add Hargrave in the column of winner. Yes, he got called with the horse collar, but he showed real hustle on that play in getting to a position to even get to that point. It's good to see guys not give up on a play if it passes them by.

 

Years from now, this will be irrelevant, but what we will miss when he comes back is where he could have been. If he comes back after 8 games say, he would have had last year and 8 more games under his belt and would have been much better. Now at best, he will be where he left off last season, and possibly a little behind.

 

My wife even commented on this during the game. Quite frankly, I had not memorized Hargrave's number yet and I had to look it up to see who the big guy was hustling that far over and down the road. I won't forget his number now.

 

It's not the yards that count, it's the inches.

 

Winner: Ross Cockrell; He did a great Ike Taylor impersonation yesterday. At times, I thought it was Ike Taylor with the dropped INT to make it even more convincing. AJ Green did very little.

Loser: Antonio Brown; Bengals D sold out to contain him and succeeded at their own peril... Coates ended up owning them.

Honorable Mention: Jordan Berry. What a difference a good punter makes in the battle for field position. So far, the Steelers are winning the field position battle in 2016. Field position was a detriment in years past for the Steelers.

 

Hargrave played a whopping 11 snaps...

 

I think it was what ultimately cost us the Denver game last year. We couldn't reverse field position whatsoever.

 

Hmmm...


To start off, not once did I say I invented or devised my study. I was doing it as a way to better understand the game. Two, no kidding there are other ways that others have developed ways to look for the positive traits of edge rushers; players for that matter.


Most interesting though, three, is your constant berating of others due to your knowledge versus theirs. Last time I checked.. forums are places which we can discuss, entertain or debate various topics based on a bevy of points or just one. You, however.. seem to delight and entertain the actions of humiliation and seem to have apathy for whomever that person may be.



In the end though, if this is your way of conversing with others within the social network.. then so be it.

 

You're now trying to claim the high road after attempting to pass off the work of others, as your own.

You didn't "conduct" a study to arrive at 6.9/4.4. These aren't your "findings".

Nice try though

 

Let me repeat myself. Not once did I say I devised that particular study. I did that as I means of bettering myself of understanding the game.


Your second point was already rebutted in my first statement of my previous post.


At any point, it does not matter if you like to put others into question or berate them at this considering this is the type of person you are. So for you to say me trying to take "the high road" is quite a contradiction in the vein that you carry yourself around here.

 

Let me repeat exactly what you said:

You did not conduct a study. You read the work of others. And attempted to pass it off as something YOU did.

You did not "find" anything. You didn't do the work. The findings aren't yours.

An honest person would've communicated what they READ about and provided a link to the hard work of others.

Keep dancing around the fact that you tried to pass off the work of others as your own. And I'll keep berating you for it.

 

didn't play that 15 yard cushion they been playing on most other WR'S ...

 

If they have a guy jumping the zone under it is not a free release .. A free release is the CB off 10 to 12 yards with no help ..Had we played that he would have had a big day ..2 ways to stop a free release man under to take away the quick throw and his path to the middle of the field..Or get up and press ....

 

Good point, shows how with only 11 snaps a guy can make an impression.

 

All of the bolded is simply wrong.

1. A OLB having outside zone coverage has nothing to do with a WR's release
2. A free release (in terms of the WR) is allowing the WR to take the first 5 yards without contact.
3. Harrison's zone does NOTHING to take away a quick throw.
4. yes... finally, you said something correctly. The way to take away a free release, is to press/jam or man/tight

 

We will disagree again .. Ask a QB if a defender drops between him and a WR if it takes away a quick throw ?

Ask a CB if he thinks a hook zone doesn't help him with coverage on a WR ?

If no zone then AJ could run free inside, he could not because the LB took that angle away thus no free release .. If the CB is 8 yards off and no zone then AJ would put up monster #'s...

 

sorry PWP, but a free release is generally referred to when a WR is "free" of contact off the LOS, in other words his release off the line is not contested. Just my take anyway.

If a LB drops into his zone taking away an inside throw that wouldn't have anything to do with his release imo. Its just good zone coverage.