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Which player gets a contract extension first?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. DeCastro

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  2. Bell

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  3. Timmons

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  4. AB

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  5. Wheaton

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  1. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    A quicker game of Football is now being played...There is a lot more passing for most Teams than running ..When Teams do run it is the OG"S who do the pulling most of the time ...The value of OG"S is getting greater each and every year and DD is one of the best in the NFL....
     
  2. Diamond

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    Thats right and delaying DDs contract is only going to cost them more, and using the option year on DD is dissrespctful to him and I'm sure he isnt happy about it, that option year was intended for players who didnt demonstrate their value as a first round pick like our loser julius jones, not for players who earned a new contract in 4 years.......
     
  3. darcrav

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    and we do run to the left alot really well
     
  4. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    DeCastro.
    We want all pro quality protecting / projecting our offense, it comes @ a price.

    "Pay the Man" then move on. It all starts w/ the line.
     
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  5. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Diamond I think you have this backwards either that or you misunderstood what the 5th year option is. You are suggesting they should have used the 5th year option on Jarvis Jones because he hasn't proven anything which would give him a large salary bump as the worked towards a new contract while not exercising the option on Decastro who has earned it and the vote of confidence it brings from getting paid more in that 5th year and the team saying we want the right to negotiate a new deal with you exclusively. You'd rather them not use the option and have to get into a contract negotiation with the specter of free agency potentially driving up the price?
     
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  6. mac daddyo

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    so what? it doesn't change the fact that it is the easiest position to fill. teams overpay all the time for players. they also don't have the o-line coach we have to make a lesser player that much better. we signed ramon foster on the other side as a left guard for near nothing compared to those contracts you listed. the 5th year option and one year deal is a way for teams to keep good players for that extra year and try to work out a deal. it's not just for aged vets. it is security for a team to work out a deal or give themselves some time to find a replacement if a deal can't be worked out too. it's about the franchise not the individual player in team building. some are just greedy and will chase the money and some like where they are and will take a fair deal for both sides. :cool:
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i get that, and one of his worst traits since he was drafted was pass protection. DD is a good player and i would love to keep him but at what cost and to what other positions do you downgrade because of keeping the easiest position to fill on offense? the whole left side of our o-line is UDFA's. we have an ace in the hole with munch that makes the difference up from having to over pay for our linemen. :cool:
     
  8. PWP

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    I say the position that we should start saving money at is at OLB...No need to pay big money at that position anymore IMO ...The speed of the game has helped negate the value of a 3-4 OLB. My next position would be at Center, the same as above as most running plays don't require the Center to pull or block downfield as often I would save money at that position as well....
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's not going to break the bank to keep DD. Our line is finally shaping up, lets not start getting full of ourselves thinking we can plug in anyone and be successful. Munch is great but he's not a miracle worker.

    DD is a must keep IMO. I'll let the FO worry about contracts.
     
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  10. SteelerGlenn

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    Maybe they've tried negotiating a new deal and he wants more. Who knows, but one thing is the 5th year option is not sneaky in anyway.
     
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  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i don't think we can just plug anyone in, but he has a way of teaching guys that are pretty good already to compete and take the next step. we have some pretty decent young guys sitting behind our starters since munch got here. this improvement didn't happen by chance. AB's and bells put butts in the seats and points on the board. bens protection is important, but we have shown other ways of keeping him upright when injuries happen and our backups had to fill in. finney, hubbard, wallace, hawkins, schooly and harris are a good group of players already to start with and should benefit greatly under munch's guidance. this is probably the best group of offensive linemen i have seen the steelers have in many years from starters on down. i don't think it's by chance. i believe munch has guided KC and MT on picking up quality pieces of clay to mold and has molded what we had prior to that just as well. :cool:
     
  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't consider paying DD who was All-Pro last season 7-8 million a year as breaking the bank, guys like Harrison and Wheaton also Timmons could be gone next season. The salary will go up they should be alright if they want to re-sign Bell, AB, they could also do some contract restructures with Ben or Heyward.
     
  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Can someone translate this lol?
     
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  14. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    Good luck with that.
     
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  15. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    really not that difficult
     
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  16. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    then again
    for some,i could see how
     
  17. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    others ask
    show me?
     
  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    the trouble is we have to replace harrison, wheaton and timmons. DD is making over 8 mil this year, he's probably not going to settle for 7-8 mil being an all-pro. we pay pouncey over 10 mil now and it goes up and so does gilberts money. we will also need to pay our LT AV soon. it all adds up and then still have AB and bell not to mention replacing others that will be heading towards their final years soon contract wise. i think they have to be careful restructuring ben. if they do it smart and not just add years, because at his age you never know when its over. we would be hit with all the money at once if he retires. similar to heath this year.

    i do think with timmons coming off the books next year and the dead money hit we have with heath this year coming off next year, we should be ok. mitchell will need a new contract. moats will come off too as may williams (LB) so we will have to replace at least 4 LBers. DW is another guy needing replaced next year. we can't keep them all but it would be nice if we could. our team has a lot of youth right now and if that youth steps up, losing a guy or two won't hurt near as bad. i think we are near the point we were a few years ago of retooling and not rebuilding with what we have. the future looks bright on paper. :cool:
     
  19. Diamond

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    Brown is going to be a tricky signing because he will want what the top 3 receivers are making 70 mill, even if they average the top 5 into the mix that average will be 67 million. They can make him play out his contract which he is due to make 6.5 mill this year but with his last year advance of 2 mill makes his salary 4.5 this year and his 2017 final year salary 8.7 mill. I expect talks to begin this off season but if they cant reach an agreement he will play out his contract and go FA, the only other option the steelers will have in 2017 is to try and trade him for a 1st round pick, tag him, or just let him play out his contract, the question is, will the steelers pay him the market rate of 70 mill or let him walk?????
     
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  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    but if you have a center that can block downfield it adds to your arsenal, and we have that. mobility for linemen is pretty much across the board anymore. when you have it use it. part of the reason i don't care for foster being part of the equation for us. he's the least mobile of the group and when he was next to wallace last year it slowed the interior down. much of the reason we did run left so well. they could block down ok and we had to use our best mobility to pull that direction. we had trouble pulling the other way because of fosters slow feet. we also had heath to crash down too, which will change things up this year in that department. pouncey will be valuable teamed with DD allowing foster to not have to move far but use his girth to seal off the middle and allow these guys to operate. :cool:
     
  21. SteelerGlenn

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  22. darcrav

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  24. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You have a higher opinion of those names then I do. I like them for depth and maybe there is a diamond in the rough there but more than likely they are just backup material. Wallace was OK filling in for Pouncey but no where near the level of play Pouncey provides. Likewise, I don't see any of those guys on DD's level.

    I think signing DD will be a very easy negotiation, that should be done fairly soon. They've already started talking, according to DD.

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/06/decastro-admits-preliminary-contract-talks-steelers-started/
     
  25. darcrav

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    there is no ab without ben
    we don't have an offense without ben
    we don't have ben without protection
     

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