Ben endorses going for two points after every touchdown, and was the most succesful doing itl

Ben converted 8 of 11 two point conversions last season the most in the NFL, and wants to do it more this year....

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/10608173-74/roethlisberger-steelers-team

 

Extra points aren't automatic anymore. But say we would have gone 11/11. That's eleven points.

Are you still with me?

8/11 is 16.

Unless 1 makes a difference at the time. Always go for the most points.

 

I still think it is situational. The only thing that has changed is Tomlin makes the 1st quarter a situation in which they can go for it. It's one thing when you have the lead, another if you are matching scores with the other team.

 

Go for it every time. Changes the dynamic of the other teams offense if youre up 8-0. Right into the one thing that the steelers defense does well (close to the ONLY thing last year) which was splash plays.

The math is there, the offense is capable, balls firmly on the table.

 

Agree, I would go for the two points all the time as well unless there's a situation where it becomes a disadvantage (down by 1 point where the extra point ties it for example).

It puts that much more pressure on the other team's offense and has to have a negative affect on the defense's psyche after just giving up a TD.

 

last years rules changes really made the extra point situation quite exciting and dangerous. i like it. if our red zone d is strong enough to stop the other team equally as much as our offense to convert i say- DO IT

 

220, 221 whatever it takes

 

I LIKE IT...

I wouldn`t say EVERY time, but, when scoring first, and you have roughly an 80% chance, Why Not???

Gotta have faith you can do it with whoever is on the field(NO Heath this year/Injuries, etc..),,,

I think situations have to factor into this...

Are we already ahead on the scoreboard?...

Is the clock running out?...

At the Half, or the quarter?,.....

I think it makes sense more times than not, but if it`s the end of the game, and you can force O.T.,

Do ya try it, when a P.a.t. almost ensures O.T.?

Just `cause they moved the line back a few yards, has your kicker been reliable, or not???


I can`t say that you go for it EVERY TIME, but if you pick your spots a couple/few times a game, I can see benefits...

Esp. if it`s early in the game, and you figure your offense can give you another chance to try it again...

With our Redzone woes lately, I`m not so sure I could count on a second chance...

That`s why Tomlin makes the big bucks...

If he`s willling to gamble on winning, with his salary on the line...

I`ll back him up, and say "Take yer chances when ya can!!!"...

Overtime is just a "flip of a coin", anyhow...


It`s a almost a similar debate about going for it on 4th down, any time it`s 3 yards or less, to get the 1st down...

All comes down to field position, time left in the game, and what you truly believe your chances are, of making the 1st down...

Usually it`s better to try and punt and pin `em deep..

But lots of people will say that if you go for it in those situations, all the time, the odds will be in your favor...


They might be right, but, I`m a traditionalist, I`m punting on 4th down probably 95% of the time...

If I`m makin` Head Coach money, I probably ain`t risking bucking the trends...

For all the talking heads talking about stats, and how if you went for it on 4th and 3 or less...

You`d make it 85% of the time, or whatever,

I don`t see any of them (or a head coach in the league) putting their salary on the line to make that choice...

I`ll go for 2 when the opportunity arises, or if I need the "2" to tie the game,

Otherwise, I`m gonna hire a kicker I trust to make the PAT from the 35...

I`m glad Tomlin has the balls to try it more than other teams, and it`s all good when it works...

But, You all know we will be crucifying him on this board, when it doesn`t...

It`s all about the situation...

Not doing it every time we have the opportunity...

GO STEELERS!!!

 

I also believe this is situational.

 

Probably another thing to factor in to this too is the opposing team's FAIL rate at 2pt conversions. Because if they have a high fail rate at going for 2 then you know that the odds of them being able to tie it after a td are probably in your favor. It's funny that you mention going for it with less than 3yds because a few years ago in that Pats Colts game Bill went for it on 4th and 2 and Faulk bobbled the catch and didn't get the first. Well of course Bill was about lynched by the media but my buddy told me that a bunch of physicists actually figured up the odds on the play and said that Bill done the right thing based on the numbers and that really the odds say they would convert that the majority of the time. The only thing is that there are SO many variables in the game of football that I think it's actually pretty hard to nail down a true formula for success. If there wasn't a lot of straight up gambling involved then the game really wouldn't be what it is anyway.

 

What about faking the extra point and going for two? That way the other team doesn't see you lined up for two EVERY time...

 

With the ball placed at the 2 yard line for a two point conversion you dont have to pass the ball to score, a good run blocking Oline and a good running back could have as much success as passing the ball, so a change up to running instead of passing makes it more unpredictable for defenses to defend...

 

Agreed. I would limit this to football games.

 

U238, U239 whatever it takes

 

That's because we're so good at it. Will the defense or special teams adapt this year?

 

If 8/11 is a good predictor for this year, then you do it. If going for it every time reduces the probability of making it (other teams figure out a way to stop it) then maybe not. How certain are we that the probability of success is greater than 50%?

If we go for it frequently in 2016, then we will have better data for predictions than last years data. I hope we have enough data to decide when we play Carolina in the super bowl.

 

I don't think Carolina is the best team in the NFC this year, so if we go to the SB it wont be against them...

 

If they are not the best team, then that's the team I want to play.

 

football is situational and we don't go for style points own it