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Tomlin tricked the Bengals

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by cajunyankee, May 8, 2016.

  1. GoalLine

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    Tomlin has a DeLorean Time Machine so they already know how the draft goes.

    "When this draft hits 88 picks, you're going to see some serious..."
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Risk/reward. They may see something in that player in the late rds but there are players ahead of him that they see as being more NFL ready, lower risk.

    Can't draft high risk players that you have late rd grades on in the early rds, good way to become unemployed.

    I give them all the credit in the world for finding AB in the 6th. Guarantee he didn't have a higher grade because of his measurables.
     
  3. EddieBurro

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    I'll take that as a good sign. Shows they're prepared.

    The one thing I would do differently, however, is I'd probably milk all the time I could trying to find teams willing to trade up. If I were an NFL exec, I'd always be listening to what other teams were willing to offer in exchange for moving up a few spots. Hell, the Steelers could have slipped a few spots, picked up an extra pick or two and still gotten Burns.
     
  4. Rush2seven

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    I kind of thought that too. And maybe that is why they made the pick so soon. They didn't want to talk themselves out of the guy they wanted, even if they thought he might be there later, perhaps Denver's pick. Keep in mind, just because the teams that follow you don't appear interested, another team that might be interested could jump up and take him.
     
  5. AskQuestionsLater

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    It should be Colbert, but my phone decides to put "Gilbert" instead. On a computer now.
     
  6. strummerfan

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    That's pure speculation, nothing more. They can trade back, but there's no guarantee another team wouldn't have grabbed Burns or that another team wouldn't trade up and draft him. The only reason not to submit your pick is if you haven't decided who you want.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Just because the Steelers hand the pick in quickly doesn't mean they didn't try and work the phones before they were up. No rule that says you have to wait, in fact, I bet many trades are set up in advance, half the time when you see a team go on the clock, its immediately followed by "Trade", they didn't work that trade 5 seconds after being on the clock.
     
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  8. muthjv

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    not true.
    so you are telling me that every single team in the nfl wasnt sure who they wanted thats why they used all the clock?
    hell, the first overall pick wasnt turned in until the 8 minute mark.
     
  9. bhandsome08

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    Denver isn't going to trade their pick within the conference, it rarely happens. Besides I doubt Burns would have lasted that long. Was hearing after the draft that KC, AZ, and Car were interested in him also.
     
  10. 86WardsWay

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    One thing I noticed is that every single team used up all of the clock while selecting their first round pick and when it was the Steelers turn they selected very quickly with an abundance of time left. Whether or not they duped the Bengals we may never know but I do believe the Bengals only selected a CB in the first round cause they knew we wanted one badly. A foolish way to pick as they have far more desperate needs then a 1st round CB. Selecting Boyd in the second was much better for them though.
     
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  11. steelersrule6

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    The Steelers may have wanted Burns over WJ III because Burns is 4 years younger, by the time WJ III finishes his rookie contract he will be close to 30 years old. Fans assume because they and the media talked up WJ III that the Steelers also liked him better. Also none of us know if the Steelers wanted Maxx Williams we didn't have access to their draft board, more fan and media speculation.
     
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  12. bhandsome08

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    I doubt the Bengals picked WJ3 because the Steelers were gonna pick one. They needed one too because, Leon Hall isn't likely to resign, Dre is in a contract year, him and Dennard haven't produced either, also Jones is up there in age. A bunch of unprovens in their CB corps.
     
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  13. Guest

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    Exactly. Perry Biggerstaff is also a moderator (LLT) over at Steelers Universe. He's good people and knows his stuff.
     
  14. bedwyr

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    I've read reports that the Steelers wanted to select Maxx Williams this year!!!!!
     
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  15. bhandsome08

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    Really? Not next year? :o
     
  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    There's a parallel universe?
     
  17. Dean

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    I agree with you. The Bengals had more pressing needs but they did what they did out of spite. This showed me that what Burfict was doing last year wasn't just a rogue player, but was sanctioned from the Bengals coaches and management.
     
  18. bhandsome08

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    Doubt any team drafts out of spite. Their CB situation isn't as good either. Hall is not likely to resign, Jones is aging. Dre and Dennard haven't really produced, plus Dre is in a contract year. Rest of their CBs are unproven also. Drafting a CB for them made sense.
     
  19. Dean

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    I didn't say that they didn't need a CB but they had more pressing needs.
     
  20. bhandsome08

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    I was thinking they were looking at either Doctson or Treadwell, but they got chosen right before their pick. WJ3 was probably their next BPA at that spot.
     
  21. Diamond

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    If you dont know who you want after 24 picks have been made then your draft room isnt very well organized, after picking late in drafts every year they should be pretty good at getting their picks in early....
     
  22. Blast Furnace

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    Yep. WR was a more pressing need but once they were gone, they moved to another pressing need on their board, CB.

    I don't think some people comprehend the concept of a draft board.
     
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  24. Dean

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    Understood, but on everything that we all knew, going into round one, WR was not one of their pressing needs. Not even in the top two. Hence, that's why there was shock with the pick. Spoke for itself.
     
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