Brandon Boykin

I'd add as well that money wasn't an issue for him but rather being given a fair opportunity to play was so I wouldn't take signing a one year vet minimum deal with a contender as a negative.

 

If I was the Panthers I would offer the Steelers a 4th round pick for Martavis Bryant and Mike Adams.

The Panthers lost the Superbowl largely because of their RT. Adams would be an upgrade for them after his time with Munchak but won't beat out Gilbert here.

Bryant would be a bonus if he can play late next season or the year after. Having Bryant for a playoff run would be huge for any team but the Steelers often cut the stoners like Blunt and Holmes. (Obviously Blunt walked out on his teammates but Blunt getting blunted must have contributed).

 

Am I the only one who notices that most NFL teams make idiotic choices in personnel one after the next based on "upside" or "pedigree"?

There is still high praise for Jay Cutler by some analysts. Why? Because of his arm strength and deep ball.

His GM is giving him high praise and saying last year was his best year (21 TD 11 INT 92 RTG).

That is so pedestrian in today's game. The Chicago Tribune still called Cutler the team MVP though. He might be... the Bears are garbage.

But still... Cutler has a losing record in 6/10 seasons and one 8-8 season, and a career passer rating of 86.

Yesterday's ESPN story? "John Fox Focused on Cutler's Development."

Haha! He is 32! There is no more development. He is going into his 11th year. This is as good as it gets.

Whatever. If people don't want to acknowledge that NFL teams get caught up in hype (Manziel anyone?) and ignore fantastic players (Kurt Warner, 2 time NFL MVP and grocery store shelf stocker) that is their business.

I try to make up my own mind.

 

He responded to a tweet from one of the SteelersDepot guys that was speculating on Boykin being a problem child and the lack of interest was due to this fact. Boykin said it wasn't about money for him although it was for lots of guys he wanted a fair chance to compete. Should I not take him at his word? Pretty sure there had to be another team looking for a young slot corner with upside that could offer a 2-3 year deal at a bit more than the minimum. I don't understand why this is hard to believe.

 

Boykin didn't sit the bench behind Blake.

 

He is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery. He is more Limas Sweed than Limas Sweed. He is the wishbone offense and the galloping ghost. He IS BOYKIN

 

I believe if you look up Boykin in the urban dictionary you will find that it means best ever. He is the Brett Hart of pro football.

 

Yes. Sometimes fans do know better than coaches in specific cases.

Could we run an NFL team? No.

Can we observe that Antwon Blake sucks and that Boykin was a solid player in his limited snaps in a complex defense? We sure can.

In my opinion, Tomlin dropped the ball with Boykin.

Luckily, coincidentally and completely by chance and even though it was the furthest thing from Tomlin and Colbert's mind... Boykin did not play enough snaps last year sonthe Steelers keep their 4th round pick and ship off their 5th.

Maybe the Steelers can snag a good player in the 4th.

 

That's why they re-signed Gay because he's good in their system, I also think the Steelers had some concerns about Boykin's tackling ability.

 

So I heard. I also heard Boykin is dumb, he wasn't prepared, he couldn't play outside etc.

Kind of unusual for a team to publicly badmouth a player like that no?

PFF said Boykin was one of the best tackling corners in football. Feel free to watch his highlights with the Eagles when he actually got playing time. Boykin is a great tackler.

Seems like all the negativity is strictly based on "the coaches said this the coaches said that. NFL coaches are all geniuses who are you going to believe them or your lying eyes?"

 

I'll trust the coaches.

 

You heard that stuff secondhand from the media speculating about Boykin, I don't remember Tomlin, Butler, Lake badmouthing Boykin publicly. Dude get over it he's gone, I'm glad they didn't play him much otherwise we wouldn't have a 4th rd pick .

 

“When I got traded, I didn’t play in Pittsburgh for nine or ten weeks on defense and there was some draft pick compensation things going on if I played more than 50 percent or 60 percent they would have to give Philadelphia their pick and that had a lot to do with it contrary to what anybody will say. That’s coming from my mouth and what I believe, but sitting on the sideline, of course I was angry – like why am I not playing and how is this going to affect me?” ---

Boykin on reduced playing time.

CB Brandon Boykin -- His inability to grasp the defense is the reason, according to coaches, that he didn't play much until midseason. His mental error on third-and-12 against Denver won't help that perception either. --- Jim Wexell

I can't find the direct quote from Butler that Wexell probably referenced.

I get it. Boykin is a conspiracy theorist and it is a coincidence that the theory the Steelers were trying to keep the 4th round pick proved true.

 

How am I supposed to get over it when smartasses are coming out of the woodwork to make ridiculous straw men arguments.

I've been told since November that the "Boykin sitting for picks" theory is ridiculous.

Well now Boykin is saying the same damn thing.

Nobody says "Oh maybe they did sit Boykin for picks." Instead the goal posts were moved and anyone who liked Boykin apparently claimed he was the second coming of Mel Blount.

Nobody ever said anything other than Boykin was one of the top two corners on the team with Gay and that they were neck and neck.

I would consider that to be verifiable fact and anyone who claims otherwise has deluded themselves into thinking Gay is the second coming of Rod Woodson. Blah blah etc etc

 

Look at this thread. I hadn't mentioned Boykin since March 21 on page 2.

You've posted on almost every page.

I posted on Monday in response to the BS about anyone pro-Boykin thinking he is as good as Darelle Revis.

As far as I'm concerned I just took a giant crap on your faulty logic between you disparaging Boykin and promoting Mackensie Alexander as worthy of a 1st pick when he is the same size, a little slower, with poor technique and tons of character issues.

I thought Steelers fans hated players who finger wag and taunt other players on 1st down incompletions? No? Brooding and arrogant is the new Steeler way?

If you think Colbert will burn a 1st on a 5'10 corner with character issues I don't know what to tell you other than start paying attention.

 

The RAIDERS aren't convinced Alexander is a "clean pick." The Raiders. The biggest goons in the NFL Raiders.

"Huh? What character issues?"

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/...draft-pick-doesnt-fit-jack-del-rio-clean-pick