Su'a Cravens - LB or S

I have mentioned him in a different thread and we have had talks about him. I feel if we are going to be using 6-7 DB's 70% of the time I like this kid more and more. I have not seen him play so before I have an opinion I have to see him to decide if he is a S or LB. If he is more of a S I like this a lot cause then he could still play the run but yet offer big time pass help. Also not to hijack your thread another prospect like this is Dieon Jones LSU. These two are guys I feel could be targets cause of the hybrid style we are going to play.

 

I like Killebrew but my problem with him is he is old school Steeler material and the way he plays(major big hitter) he will be a target for this new NFL. That one fact has me worried the NFL will be just waiting with fines and penalties.

 

6'1". 220 lbs at USC pro day. 4.65 40. Honestly, if the Steelers see him as a strong safety, he could be our first round pick. I'd love to get him with our second, but if teams are viewing him as a safety (as compared to linebacker) he won't be there. Would greatly prefer him to Keanu Neal, who some people have us taking in the first round.

 

Honestly Cravens is off my board. I can't see drafting him before the 5th rd ( due to our needs and other?better prospects ) and by then he'll be drafted by then by someone else.

He is in his Prime physically yet he looks slow in his play/movement. He seems to have good instincts but where would he play. He's slow, not very quick, and weak in the bench press. He's got decent size. Is he a 4-3 OLB ( weakside ) or a 3-4 ILB or a SS? SS is out in my opinion, as is Wil so that leaves, to me, a 3-4 ILB. A good run stopper when in space but weak in coverage and gets caught up in traffic.

I'm not a fan and most likely stand alone on this board....... but that's me

Cajun

 

Speaking of Neal I watched him and I am not sure why he is being connected to us but I do not want him.

 

I only watched half a game but I can see what your saying, in the little I watched he looks to have a nose for the ball. I watched him blitz off the edge which is something I like a lot, I need to see more and how he is in coverage.

 

i have to agree. give me a bell, green**, simmons***, thompson, powell, dillon, smith, cash, fejedelem, williams, byrd and then maybe neal. heck i'm leaning towards even canady, worley, russell and murray as guys that could play safety for us. as much as lee covered as a lb he would even be able to play that spot over cravens.

 

Bingo!!!!

 

What???? Dude!!!!.... He is no where near Troy in talent.

Cajun

 

I'm not sure where Cravens will play in the NFL, I see him going no earlier than late 2nd. He might turn out to be like Deone Buchanan of the Arizona Cardinals, a undersized ILB.

 

Damn man no one said he was freakin Troy who is, I think it was said he had Troy abilities. There may never be another Troy but it don't mean guys don't play his style of game. I have not watched a lot of Cravens so I can't really judge him yet. All I know is the way we are switching our defense guys like this might be just what we are looking for......

 

He does seem to exhibit great instincts, I just don't see the speed in his game and his work out numbers validate that. In the NFL ALL his opponents will be all-stars.

I believe right now an old heavier Troy could still out run him. Troy ran 4.33 in the 40 at his combine..... I think

I just don't see Craven as a talent draftable in the early rds, but then again I'm Not a scout, just a fan

Cajun

 

We are not taking that guy in the first round. He is nowhere near that talent level to warrant first round consideration.

 

Players Who Interviewed Well:

USC outside linebacker Su'A Cravens
Ohio State offensive tackle Taylor Decker
TCU wide receiver Josh Doctson
Notre Dame wide receiver Will Fuller (multiple teams)
Alabama running back Derrick Henry
Stanford tight end Austin Hooper (multiple teams)
UCLA outside linebacker Myles Jack
Alabama center Ryan Kelly
North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz (multiple teams)
Florida State defensive back Jalen Ramsey (multiple teams)
Notre Dame cornerback KeiVarae Russell
Notre Dame left tackle Ronnie Stanley
Ohio State wide receiver Michael Thomas
Ole Miss left tackle Laremy Tunsil (multiple teams)

Mixed Feedback:

Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa
Pitt wide receiver Tyler Boyd
Cal quarterback Jared Goff (some teams said poor; others said he did well)
Penn State quarterback Christian Hackenberg
Arkansas tight end Hunter Henry
Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch

Players Who Interviewed Poorly:

Michigan State quarterback Connor Cook
Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott (multiple teams)
Indiana running back Jordan Howard
Ole Miss defensive lineman Robert Nkemdiche (multiple teams)
Texas defensive tackle Hassan Ridgeway

 

I am thinking this kid is more 2nd then 1st, not sure where all the 1st round talk is coming from but then again if the Steelers are considering Neal in the 1st anything is possible.

 

If we took Cravens or Neal in the first I would puke.