The Steelers should go after this guy in free agency

I would rather draft a top corner in the first round and sign him under the rookie cap for 4 years for about 15 million with a 5th year option, when we needed a strong safety in 03 we traded up and drafted Troy, I don't see any reason why we cant do that now and start him in his rookie year...

 

Troy didn't start his rookie year and in fact most thought he was going to bust.

 

I didnt say he stated his rookie year, and I dont recall anyone thinking he was a bust either, he played well in the nickle package and I thought he should have started day one over I think it was hope or logan, it was our DC Tim Lewis fault he didnt start day one..........

 

It's crazy, but people were calling him a bust.

 

I'm good with either one. As long as they get a top CB. Draft pick is cheap, but no guarantee that he pans out. FA is proven, but is gonna cost us.

 

I remember some people were anti-Troy. Probably a minority, and maybe not using the word 'bust', but certainly he was worrying a few people with his playing style - quite a few times where he would fully commit to a tackle and then miss. I think he was playing well enough for people to recognise he was a talent, but to the more conservative fan, he was a worry.

Pretty sure it was Logan who he replaced.

 

For me, I want them to get a safety first and foremost.

I don't trust our form on drafting (and playing) CBs to commit a first rounder. But a stud safety will make more of an impact.

 

Yeah, I think I'm on board with that. We should also have our pick of the top safety (not counting Ramsey) so we can get the one we want, rather than picking off the CB "scrap heap".

 

I agree and my thinking is if we were to sign a safety in FA does that change how we draft? I talked about this in another thread, let's say we sign Weddle, now we have 2 good vet S. Do we go and take an Apple or Fuller in the 1st and a S in the 2nd and hope to develop them both under the vet leadership?

 

Fuller and Apple are both a reach at pick #25 . Neither of them are really elite talent, I see no reason why the Steelers should take them with that pick.. The more film I watch the more I can project Apple as a good #2 or #3 CB , I don't think even that much about Fuller ...

 

he was a bust that first year. for a player you move up to get and he cant even break into a starting role in a pathetic secondary, that was pretty bad.
fortunately he turned it around and proved the steelers were right in moving up to get him
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Maybe a disappointment , but not a bust.

 

The order doesn't matter to me. We need both. As long as we get them I'm good.

 

I was on the Fuller bandwagon then I watched some film and was like holy cow this kid is bad, he fell for the double move every time. So since then I am not to much of a fan however the kid has talent just needs work, I agree at 25 he is a reach. As far as Apple goes I watched some on him not a whole lot and what I saw was a guy who really didn't tackle much. As far as a #2 or 3 I don't know I feel it is hard for me to give an opinion as I haven't really watched much. I go more according to what I read and lots of people have him projected at #25.

 

I couldn't agree more and I also read the same thing about Fuller's injury and the difference between 2014 and 2015. I only have watched the 2015 and read about 2014, and like I have said in other posts Fuller was my "man crush" prospect this year. I get the whole scheme thing and really overlooked it a bit. I am with you on the whole true #1 corner thing however I feel there are guys who have the talent in this draft to be one. And I also agree on the tackling part man I have seen the same thing on the limited amount of film that I have watched.

 

Yes they do have Apple projected at 25 , but I think they are wrong . I don't think Apple will be able to cover #1 WR talent, that takes him off my board at 25 . I did a top 50 list and he hit at #40.So by my board 25 is a reach .

 

I was disappointed not in Troy but in Tim Lewis for not starting him, lewis had him convinced he didnt know the defense well enough to start, even if that was true, which it wasnt, troy was athletically a faster and all round a better player than what we had starting.........

 

I think we agree on the true 1st. round CB'S and I am in the process of breaking down CB'S as well .It will be fun to see how we view them differently ..I have 2 guys that I have #1 CB rankings on those 2 are Ramsey and Hargreaves , I have no other DB with a 1st. round grade at this point..I like Fuller just not as a outside guy .I don't think that his knee will hold up on the outside against the big WR'S . He can be cleared medically , but the way he plays I wouldn't want to single him up on the outside. The Steelers need that .They need at least 1 CB who can man up if needed , I don't think Fuller is that guy..

 

No disrespect but I can't read your board and I just base my opinion on what I read on draft sites. If all the "so called" experts have him going at 25 then that is where I put him, I think it is cool you have a board. I don't know enough about these guys to justify making a board, plus everyone here adds some really good insight. The "so called" experts are just like weathermen most really don't have a clue so the rankings are a 50-50 crap shoot.

 

What do you guys think about going after the recently released Rams TE to help bridge the Heath gap?

 

My opinion is no, mostly cause I am one of the few that feels James can step in. I also like the TE draft class more then most.

 

No disrespect at all , the problem with most the experts a lot of them have never even played ball , much less coached or scouted for talent on any level . I don't have top level experience in this either , but some experience is better than none.IMHO. I feel a lot of the experts look at Supply and Demand and Apple is close to a top tier CB , but not a #1 so I speculate that they force him up the boards because of the high demand..

There are 4 or 5 guys on my board just like Apple and they will be there in rounds 2 and 3 . I just don't want the Steelers to make another mistake drafting Apple at 25 . I feel strongly that if they move back Apple will stay on the board til around pick 40 and they can get Apple and another player or another CB just as good as him and another player .

 

I feel ya on JJ I think he could end up really good for us. I was thinking another vet though that was underutilized in St. Louis who I think could be a pretty solid guy on our team and part ways with Spaeth.