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Can we PLEASE stop the "If we would have..." situational talk? It's foolish

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Frost33, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. Frost33

    Frost33 Well-Known Member

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    All season I've read posts from people constantly second guessing the coaching staff's decisions. Especially when it comes to field goals. Yesterday people were complaining because Tomlin didn't attempt two 50+ field goals, and while I would have liked to see him try I get why he didn't. He made a decision that he (and presumably the rest of the coaches) felt was in their best interest.

    However, at the end of the game it is idiotic to look at the score and say "SEE!!! Those field goals mattered!" The fact is, they didn't, and here is why. Saying that is making the assumption that the rest of the game unfolds EXACTLY how it did, when we know that isn't the case. Boz kicks the field goal and makes it, the kick-off to follow changes the game from then on. Maybe the returner runs it back, maybe he fumbles and we get the ball, maybe he gets great field position or bad. The fact is, if you change that call it changes the rest of the game and you can't predict how it unfolds.

    Disagree with the call all you want, that's our right and to some extent obligation as fans to do. But don't be fooled into believing a false, flawed argument
     
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  2. santeesteel

    santeesteel

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    IF we had made those two FGs, we would have lost by 1.
    IF my aunt had huevos, she'd be my uncle.
     
  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Like it or not, this is a message board, and people have opinions.
     
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  4. Frost33

    Frost33 Well-Known Member

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    I said opinions are good, we should have them, but did you read my post? I'm guessing no.
     
  5. nofieldfive

    nofieldfive Well-Known Member

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    you can't just add 6 to our score and say we lost by 1. had we made those and we likely aren't going for it on fourth down deep into our own territory - which gave denver an easy 3 points.

    in today's NFL a 50 yard field goal is the new 40 yard field goal. the rest of the league is nailing them - but we are afraid to even try them. more than once this year going for it on fourth down or punting, instead of going for the 3 has cost us.

    at least let Boswell try one or two and go from there.
     
  6. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    50 yard FG in Denver is roughly equivalent to a 45 yard FG in another stadium.

    Not really debating the point, I just keep seeing fans refer to 50+ yards as if it meant the same over there as it would at Heinz Field.
     
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  7. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    That's not the case anymore. She'd only be your uncle if she felt like your uncle. Which would be the case huevos or no huevos.
     
  8. Frost33

    Frost33 Well-Known Member

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    I agree Contract. As I said in my post, I wish he would have kicked it, but what I'm saying is that assuming that it would have made the difference really isn't true. The rest of the game progresses totally differently based on different decisions. Like if Denver goes for it instead of kicking the FG. Whether they get it or not changes EVERYTHING from that point on. Nothing progresses the same way. Look at the game last ween against the Bungals. IF that fumble isn't whistled dead, we're up 22-0 and likely Ben and Brown aren't hurt.

    Please don't misunderstand, I'm not saying we shouldn't guess or even question the call, we absolutely should, thats why we're here. All I'm saying is that you can't look at the end score and wish we had kicked a FG early in the game because then everything would have changed from that point on and the ending we saw wouldn't have been the ending we go.
     
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  9. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't disagreeing. You are correct. If you alter one play, there's no telling what the outcome may have been.
     

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