Ben's prime years have been disappointing.

Thats true, and Bradshaw had an all pro Oline and a solid running game to count on, no free agency to lose players in those days, TB was a pick machine, even though the most yardage he ever threw for was 3700 yards in a season that was in 79 when he had 25 picks, his average passing yardage per season was in the 2000s, still his int ratio was very high for example the 4 years leading up to his last superbowl in 1980, starting in 77 he threw 19 picks, jn 78-20 picks, in 79-25 picks, in 80-22 picks, if it wasnt for the all star team surrounding him he would never have been considered a good QB let alone a great one, if Ben was throwing the amount of picks TB did in his prime you all would really be frustrated....

 

Ben and Brett actually have nearly identical turnover stats when you adjust to era and league averages. During their first 12 years, both Ben and Brett had an Int% grade of 101.5, when comparing to league averages. 100 is the league average, so both were a bit above league average.

Ben's fumble percentage per drop back/run is 1.4% compared to 1.5%. Slightly better but that doesn't account for today's rules protecting the QB.

So all in all, I'd call it a wash, rather than considering Brett a "turnover machine"

 

I guess it would depend on how many of these plans are actually Haleys calls and which are Bens. Lining up at the 1 yard line without an RB is plain dumb. Talk about showing your cards. It's quite possible plays are sent in and Ben changes them at the line of scrimmage.

 

The only difference was TB played at a time when defensive backs could hit and maul the receivers the whole time. Hence the rule changes. It's very difficult to say who threw less interceptions or was more accurate. I know who had the stronger arm. You never saw TB throw a long bomb short.

 

I have to disagree with that.ive got no problem with the play called, only the pass that was thrown. That's a pass that has to be thrown low.