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Hot Take: Get Rid of Tomlin, Promote Haley

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelTerp, Dec 27, 2015.

Would the Steelers be better off firing Tomlin and promoting Haley to HC

  1. Yes

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    43.6%
  2. No

    31 vote(s)
    56.4%
  1. SteelTerp

    SteelTerp Well-Known Member

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    Please give me reasons as to why this is a bad idea.

    What does Tomlin bring to the table?

    1. Walks blindfolded into trap game after trap game.

    2. Bottom 5 clock management in the league

    3. Plays and pays the wrong players (mind boggling that Blake started today)

    4. A lot of talk at the podium

    5. Somehow continues to allow schemes where our pass rushing LB's get gashed over the middle

    Haley will likely get a HC job sometime soon with the way our O is playing this season.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  2. SteelerJJ

    SteelerJJ Well-Known Member

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    Not Haley but I am fed up with Tomlin.
     
    • Agree Agree x 6
  3. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    how do you not take the FG in the 1st quarter. I just don't get it. Why does he do that game after game. 3 points likely changes the outcome. We'd be in clock eating mode looking for a FG to win it.

    Also taking 4+ minutes off the clock late in the 4th proved to be a huge mistake as it took too much time. We sit on a TO when the time was against us...and blow 2 TO's when it was probably better to take the penalty. Every week we are asking WTF was Tomlin doing. He's the worst coach in the league. No coach goes 5 years with out winning a playoff game with Ben as their QB and survives.
     
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  4. Steelhammer92

    Steelhammer92 Well-Known Member

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    we went for it because we took the Ravens lightly and assumed points would be easy to come by and they wouldn't be able to move the ball on us. Running the entire 1st drive, and then going for it, were indicative of an overconfident game-plan. we've seen it before, we'll see it again.
     
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  5. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    establishing the run is one thing but you still have to mix it up. We come up thinking we can just run to victory and let Ben have the week off. That was clearly our game plan... that put us out of synch from the start...then we let them stick around and didn't take points when we needed it and didn't manage the clock when we needed it. One of the worst coaching jobs I've seen in years..only out done by Tomlin's previous choke jobs against horrible teams.
     
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  6. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for replacing Tomlin. I'm literally sick to my stomach with his inconsistency year after year after year after year.

    His success is based on not having a losing season. Big whoop. Mediocrity at it's best.
     
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  7. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    Bottom line is this... does anyone really think we can win another SB with Tomlin as our HC? No way.. We haven't won a playoff game going on 5 years. Sad thing is I believe we are stuck with him for another season of failure before the Rooney's finally admit failure.
     
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  8. SteelHaven

    SteelHaven Well-Known Member

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    It's probably going to take 2 or 3 straight years of no playoffs to get Tomlin fired (maybe more).
     
  9. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    He hasn't had a losing season because we have a HOF QB that wins games on his arm alone. Not to mention explosive WR's and the best RB in the league. that's why we're able to win 8 games. It takes a an average or better coach to win playoff games when you have a HOF QB.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  10. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    I am not against getting rid of too cool Tomlin, hoever I am not in favor of Haley. I will also say I have ZERO problem with going for it on 4th and 1 in the FIRST QUARTER....1ST DRIVE! My problem is if your gonna run it don't dance like Dwill did. 4th and 1 gotta go hard, we have become a powerhouse offensive team(not today) I have no problem going for it with our weapons.
     
  11. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget his chest thump is pretty awesome! :shrug:
     
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  12. Ender

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    Not Haley. His gameplan was garbage today. Not to mention going empty set on first and goal from the one. Not Haley.
     
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  13. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    We've wasted Ben's prime years muddled in mediocrity.
     
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  14. MorrisFoster

    MorrisFoster Well-Known Member

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    Haley has an ascerbic personality that likely wouldn't work well for the Steelers in the long term.

    I haven't liked Tomlin in a long time.

    Not sure what it will take for Tomlin to be replaced but I think he is trying to find out ahahaha.
     
  15. SteelerJJ

    SteelerJJ Well-Known Member

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    These stats say it all.

     
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  16. MorrisFoster

    MorrisFoster Well-Known Member

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    This is what stands out to me. The Steelers have maybe 4 or 5 more seasons to get it done with Ben.

    Franchise QBs are hard to come by.

    All the confidence I have in the Steelers winning comes from Ben. I expect Tomlin to do things like go for it on 4th from the other teams 25 every game.
     
  17. SteelTerp

    SteelTerp Well-Known Member

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    Have you seen Bruce Arians' teams lately?
     
  18. 58stillers

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    A game or so ago some people were touting Tomlinson as a finalist as coach of the year......

    He will get a bye due to all the injuries..... And we'll endure another season without a playoff win.
     
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  19. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    This is PROFOUND and is the most compelling argument for parting ways with Mike Tomlin! He's simply lost too many games over the years that he should have won and good coaches win games they are supposed to win.
     
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  20. steel_ben7

    steel_ben7 Well-Known Member

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    Horrible clock management by Tomlin today. You can't burn two timeouts early in the 2nd half like they did and it ends up costing the Steelers big time.
     
  21. Ender

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    I have and I'm still not a fan. I don't like taking away even the threat of running. I hate empty set unless its third and long.
     
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  22. Ender

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    This brings back painful memories.
     
  23. Steel Acorn

    Steel Acorn Well-Known Member

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    Wow. That is compelling evidence.
     
  24. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if Haley will get any jobs with performances like today. Maybe Tomlin really loves him and just wants him to stay. LOL!
     
  25. Badboy212

    Badboy212 Well-Known Member

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    Please stop. Tell me this thought process is the beer talking. Haley is not a HC for a reason. This loss was a total team failure, both MT and TH were bad today, but so were the other starters. Just pathetic
     
    • Agree Agree x 4

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