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Haley needs to use DHB to break the Broncs

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by PWP, Dec 19, 2015.

  1. Busman

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    The problem is when you see DHB out there you know he is not getting the ball for the reasons outlined.
     
  2. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter the D still has to respect the speed and his ability to beat his man off the line and outrun him . The D can't afford to play I hope he drops it ...By the way check this out.https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/13/top-20-drop-rates-among-nfl-receivers/ Ranked higher than any other Steeler you guys might want to stop arguing the drop aspect of the past , it is simply not the case in 2015..

    Now check out the tape the Safety should be over the Center or even shading the 2 WR side , but as I have always stated he simply can not ..The ability for DHB to win off the line and the speed to leave almost any DB a Team puts on him forces the Safety to shade to him...Haley needs to use DHB more period.Not for the good of DHB or for me , but for the good of the Team..This shows what I just stated perfectly..http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12/steelers-film-room-antonio-browns-game-winning-td/
     
  3. strummerfan

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  4. SteelerGlenn

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    I looked at those links and disagree.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    PWP and Revis have something in common, they both live on an island by themselves :lollmao:
     
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  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    A WR that can't catch but can block is a fullback. We have a better fullback.
     
  7. SteelerGlenn

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    Just read on TMZ that AB has Changed his name to DHaB. Cause without DHB none of his success would be possible.
     
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  8. Busman

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    If he was in fact a decent receiver and has the spee
    If he gets seperation and Ben trusts him then perhaps he throws his way.. I just don't think it's happening. He is in tight coverage most of the time .. I would although be willing to see some footage, gifs and tape you have on him beating his man and getting open.
     
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  9. thorn058

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    I would think that this is some creative number crunching PWP. If he is targeted only five times in the last 8 games and catches 4 out of five his numbers will be better than AB, Wheaton and Bryant who are targeted way way more and so the average for them drops. Not saying his drops are a thing of the past or the present but I am saying sample size is too small to compare to starters including TE's and RB's
     
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  10. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yes. In the world of science that would be called "statistically insignificant."

    I do like DHB, and I think he's a great guy to have around as a #4 or #5 receiver - mostly for things that he does othe tHan catching the ball. However, we haven't seen nearly enough to make any assessment of whether his hands have improved.
     
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  11. PWP

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    Even with a small sample size a zero percent drop rate from a 16.5 percent drop rate does strongly suggest that he has Improved ..He played very well when given the chance to play . I think we have so much talent at the position that people are selling DHB short. I have no doubt DHB would be a very good #2 WR he has worked hard to get there I don't need huge stats to show me he is ready. The next Gen stats show he is still 1 of the fastest players in the NFL as I have always stated ..DC'S are scared to death of speed,they have to account for it..
     
  12. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    So, I just flipped a coin 4 times and it came up heads 3 times. Therefore, my scientific conclusion is that flipped coins will come up heads 75% of the time.

    I'm not debating that DHB is a solid player who helps the team, but your stats were completely insignificant to the argument. They have about as much relevance as my coin scenario above. The video of the AB touchdown is far more compelling. When you consider that there were 2 WRs opposite DHB, yet the single high safety shaded towards DHB's side, it's hard to explain. I personally think it was a gaffe by either the (backup) safety, or by the DC having the single high safety shade to that side despite the matchups, but you never know.
     
  13. PWP

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    As I stated it was because DHB had already blew by that CB earlier in the game . It was on that 3rd. and 20 PI call this scared the CB/Safety/DC . A great job by Haley going back to that set and the Safety was in no mans land . CB'S simply can't play DHB without bracket help . Just like I said at the beginning use DHB to create space , I see the Safety shade to DHB every time he is on the field...
     
  14. thesteeldeal

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    To me the reason they use DHB is for his blocking first and foremost. I think he would make a better decoy if they actually at least threw to him on a fly pattern once or twice,without that I don't think teams are as scared as PWP might think.....I really wish that Coates had progressed a little faster kinda like MB last year because I think his speed and his size and physicality would prove to be a much bigger weapon than DHB could ever be....Coates is a deep threat and looks to have serious YAC abilities.
    I just hope one year soon we are able to see all our guys on the field for a whole season D Will Is a godsend but LeVeon takes us to another level.
     
  15. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    PWP
    I believe you have a stalker and a harasser out there in the
    what ever works best for the team i'll go for
    and you show great evidence of it
    SO
    FIGHT ON
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2015

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