Why is Landry Jones on the team?

He never sees the field even when Ben goes down and we keep him around. He's been in and practiced in this system for a few years now, wouldn't he have been the better option since we wouldn't have to completely flip our offense 180 degrees?

Vick is just no longer an NFL quality QB. Accuracy was never has strong point but now he's just all over the place. The biggest problem however is that he simply cannot think fast enough. There are guys open all over the place but the way he goes through his reads and the way he reacts to pressure, he is simply unable to get the ball to them.

Is it time to put Landry in and just see if he can manage the rest of the game and get us a win before Ben comes back?
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Playing Landry Jones over Michael Vick may be a better option right now. In the accuracy department, Jones is worthless while Vick is extremely worthless. But at least Jones know the playbook & can audible to decent plays. When you got 9 guys in the box & still can't find an open receiver ...you got problems.

 

I'm glad they won, but this just means another week with vick unfortunately. i guess we need to wait until he throws 3 picks or more. he would have had 3 tonight if SD would have held on to the ball.

 

I guess Jones is still on the team because the Steelers want to continue to develop him. He showed some growth this preseason. He didn't show enough growth for the Steelers to trust him with the keys to the offense yet. He probably wouldn't perform any better than Vick. It's probably better to have a vet with experience starting then a player with little to no experience.

Vick proved the last two weeks that he can make enough plays to help this team win games.

 

Mike Vick is Coach T's boy, landry Jones
will never play unless Mike Vick gets hurt.
When does Gradkowski come back off IR?

 

I was in agreement during game thread to replace Vick. Then crunch time came and he led two touchdown drives. I don't think you get either with Landry.

 

Gradkowski is on IR he won't be back this season.

 

I'm just surprised there haven't been any more threads than this one made about Landry Jones in the past two years.

More seriously...

Vick's scramble was the big play of the last drive. However, he also missed numerous, numerous completions that LJ might have made, given his familiarity with the system.

Credit to Vick, he won the game. Discredit to Vick, he almost lost it for us.

 

This. It was incredible he climbed out of that hole, but he was the one who helped dig it.

I'm already reading comments about Haley holding back Vick, based on the big plays on the TD drives.
I'd say that being unreliable with the easy passes is holding back Vick.

 

I think the Vick vs. Jones debate all comes down to one thing. One guy though a bit of a train wreck in his ability to run the offense is still a guy who can make plays vs. the other guy being one who knows the offense but has not shown enough progression where you feel confident he can command the respect of the players in leading the team. So you go with the playmaker and hope he makes enough plays for you to win.

But boy as Blast noted Vick looked atrocious for 58 minutes.

 

Historically speaking, 3rd string QB's generally don't perform as well as your first opinion suggests.

It's very likely that regardless of who(Ben included) was playing the team would had needed a game winning drive. Vick was under a lot of pressure for much of the game. It's very doubtful that Landry would had been able to rebound from that pressure and keep his game together to make enough plays at the end.

I'm not sure how the team was lucky when the team made enough plays to win. The Chargers didn't make the plays.

 

I do think the loss of Gradkowski is underappreciated in terms of his value to the team. Bruce knew the offense and to me was an ideal backup QB, a guy who could come in and be effective for 3-4 game stretch. In hindsight his injury looks pretty big.

 

Back up QB's are back up QB's for reasons. People always believe the next man up will be better.

 

It can be worse. I call that San Diego's inability to make the plays. Each game is different. As long as the defense can keep the games close we will have a chance to win.

 

Yes - but generally an ideal backup QB is a guy who is not as good as the starter but can run the offense at a competent level - though not necessarily as good because of the greater skills/talent of the starting QB. It's not that I think the next man up is better (I do not think choosing Jones over Vick would be a good idea) - it is that I know that Gradkowski was a solid backup. Do they win with Grad vs. Vick? I don't know and I do know Grad likely can't throw the deep pass the way Vick can and he wouldn't have made the 30 yard QB dash on the last drive. But I also know that Grad probably sees a ton of those wide open throws in the middle of the field, I think the offense gets more than 1 first down in the 2nd half before the scoring barrage, and I think he maybe makes one bad throw to the sidelines that does or almost gets picked off, but not three.

 

the gift from the Charges evens out our gift to the Ravens

 

Agree, but I would have liked to have seen some better play calling for Vick. He looked stiff and afraid to make mistakes. I think running type quarterbacks, need to run some to get his juices flowing. If you noticed after he made the long run near the end of the game he was spot on to Heathe near the goal line. Vick seems to have most problems when in the pocket. He needs to play to his strengths and run around some.

Forget the timing passes to Brown and the rest of the receivers, it's not going to happen. Also he threw to Heathe twice for big gaines, (why only twice).?

Just glad they won, but there was some head scratching play calls. Hope they learned something with this game.

 

And as crazy as it may sound, beating the Chargers may be more meaningful than beating the Ravens. The Ravens are 1-4 and though I can't completely count them out, it will be a tough road for them to get above .500 with their deficiencies. Meanwhile if we finish tied with the Bolts for a wildcard we hold a head to head with them. So in some ways the win over SD is better than a win over the Steelers' arch rival.

 

I think you are pretty much right and even Blast in another post said let Vick do what he does better which are the deeper passes. I would like to see more rollouts and lots of play action - I do think one reason they are not letting Vick run around is they are afraid of him getting whacked. That shot he took on the TD pass did not look too pleasant.

 

Not that they are absolutely right all the time, but SteelersDepot said they find it highly unlikely that Grad will be back with the team next year.

 

I agree and I will admit I was on board with the Vick signing but that doesn't mean it has to be Armageddon to give Landry a chance if Vick continues to struggle. They aren't and shouldn't be married to either guy at this point,so why not take a chance when one is struggling as bad as last nite. They are just temps until Ben is back so it should be all hands on deck to eke out some wins.

 

If Vick is a better option than Jones.. .then Jone's has no business being on our roster and shame on the coaching staff and front office for having NO depth behind Ben. He can't possibly be worse then Vick. I havn't seen QB play this bad since ..... uh well , I don't know if ever? I can't remember anyone worse.

It's Ok to be wrong about Vick. I can understand why the FO and Tomlin thought he'd be a good back up. BUT he clearly is done. So you admit the mistake and play Jones. You can do it in a respectful way if you are worried about Vick's feelings. But why let Vick start against the Cardinals? that's a guaranteed loss. At least with Jone's you have a QB who has to know the offense better than Vick. Vick doesn't even have his rocket arm anymore... which was clear when he couldn't get an outside pass to the sideline...which should have been a pick/6.