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The Walking Dead (no comics spoilers)

Discussion in 'The Watercooler' started by Ray D, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    We need a zombie emoticon :lolol:
     
  2. biggbunch68

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    I was wondering, when/if they were gona make their presence known
     
  3. Blast Furnace

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    Damn Wolves! Had to be. Wow, good episode.

    Ill hold off on saying more until later.
     
  4. Ray D

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    Can't feel sorry for Carter. Dutch did all he could for him, but he still ended up being too entitled, weak and unwilling to listen to those who know better. ;)

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    Some really good laughs tonight. Eugene was killing it.

    They pointed out on The Talking Dead... Michonne DID take Morgan's peanut butter protein bar! :roflmao: I didn't remember that.

    I agree that it had to be the Wolves. I've never read the comics, but I have a working understanding of them. It seems like the Wolves are the show's version of the Scavengers, and we're about to get the HERD.

    Is it just me? Or is that the same quarry from season one?
     
  5. Blast Furnace

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    Oh wow, lol, I forgot he was in that movie :roflmao:

    When I saw him, I was remembering him from Cant Hardly Wait, the kid crushing on Jennifer Love Hewit. I thought he would have lasted longer than one episode.

    I couldnt remember if Michonne took it or not but got the feeling she did by her response. Question is, how really upset or not is Morgan about it??? Still not sure where Morgans head is at.

    I don't know if thats the same quarry but damn, thats a lot of Walkers :eek:

    I guess the group isn't going to be spending a lot of time at Alexandria this season. I was expecting something like the prison season.
     
  6. Lizard72

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    Not the same quarry. That was down outside of Atlanta. They are currently outside of D.C.
     
  7. Guest

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    Everything about the Season 6 premiere was awesome. Daryl leading the Parade o' Walkers was the best thing ever!
     
  8. Ray D

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    I know it's not supposed to be the same quarry. But they're filming around Atlanta still and it looks like the same quarry from a different angle. Then again, I guess most granite quarries look close enough.



    ;)
     
  9. Ray D

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    We need a Pied Piper off between Daryl and Daniel.
     
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    So you guys think it was the Wolves who set off the horn? I was thinkin' maybe it was Father Gabriel because he was pissed Rick wouldn't let him help.

    I haven't watched Talking Dead yet.
     
  11. Ray D

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    Has to be the Wolves. Anyone from Alexandria makes no sense as they'd basically be committing suicide.
     
  12. pjgruden

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    Yup, that's my guess too. He has a death wish and just can't seem to come to grips with living in this new world. He's very self centered, and is never thinking about the good of the group.

    I'm kind of curious where Abraham's head is too. He seems to thrive on the confrontation. I wonder if this will eventually get him into trouble. I hate to say it, but we need to kind of thin the herd of characters again. We hardly saw Carol, Maggie or Carl this episode.
     
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  13. niterider

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    Interesting to see that Morgan is Rick's moral center. Really like having him back, I can see him as Rick's right hand man.

    Is Maggie pregnant? The little exchange between her and Glen during the flashback when they were volunteering was interesting. Didn't know if anyone else caught it.

    Also, how the hell did they find the time to hotwire every single car, made sure the batteries had enough juice and get them all lined up? You do all that and can't throw a few buses behind that corner wall? LOL
     
  14. Lizard72

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    Apparently, he was supposed to be all along. Not liking how it appeared they were judging him after that guy had his face bitten off.
     
  15. SteelinOhio

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    I just finally got to watch the season 6 premier last night. Man, what a great episode.

    My first reaction was that the horn was the wolves. They have the trucks and it sounded like a truck horn. It made me think that they've been collecting zombies for just such an occasion.

    niterider, I think I caught what you noticed about Glen and Maggie. I can't pinpoint why, but during that scene I was wondering if she might be pregnant.
     
  16. pjgruden

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    You know, I'm sitting here trying to figure this one out. We know that being bit will turn you into a walker. We also know that everyone is infected. So why does a bite turn someone if it's not in a crucial area? Couldn't someone who's been bitten on the arm just let that wound heal? Why does that automatically turn them? I know that's always been what zombie lore has said, but I kind of think they've backed themselves into a corner by having everyone be infected.

    Back to this episode specifically, if the horn was the Wolves, what's their end game? I can't figure that one out. Do they want to be the only humans left surviving?
    And back to the quarry, couldn't they have come up with a better solution? Why not try to set the herd on fire? I know that you need to kill the brain, but burning them to a crisp would certainly help the cause, you'd think. Or worst case, stand on the cliff and start throwing rocks at them. At this point their skulls are pretty brittle (as evidenced when some were killing themselves walking into the barrier when the road turned)
     
  17. SteelinOhio

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    I don't know the answer for sure, but I suppose once someone turns, the virus could have some type of mutation that makes it cause a reaction in a living person's system to make them turn.

    Maybe I missed something, but my thought on this is that the wolves are the group that Aaron said were kicked out of Alexandria (he mentioned a dangerous group with 2 men and 1 woman that were kicked out during the season 5 finale when he was scouting with Daryl). I wondered if they were doing this to get revenge.
     
  18. Ray D

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    That was speculated on for some time now, but Fear The Walking Dead confirmed it.

    Everyone is infected with whatever reanimates you. The bites have nothing at all to do with that.

    What the bites DO is cause an incurable, deadly and extremely fast spreading infection. It can be stopped with amputation if done quickly and if the bite is in an extremity (see Hershel). But if the bite occurs where amputation isn't feasible, or if enough time passed for the infection to spread through your blood, you're doomed. And then once you die, you come back from the other infection unless someone or something destroys your brain.

    The 2 "infections" aren't the same pathogen. Think of a walker bite as a super fast spreading gangrene that operates similar to snake venom.
     
  19. pjgruden

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    While it's certainly possible that those three are the wolves, really what kind of threat are they? Morgan kicked two of their asses single handedly. It has to be a bigger group, I would think.
    I'll pose another question. Do you guys believe that Rick or Shane is right in regards to recruiting more people for Alexandria? I think I side with Rick here. At this point, anyone who's still around in this current world certainly can't be a "good" person. Everyone has done some bad stuff for sure. How can you trust anyone?
     
  20. pjgruden

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    Okay, that's makes a lot of sense Ray. So the bite is just what kills them, the catalyst for turning onto a walker is still the virus.
     
  21. Ray D

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    I'm assuming you meant Daryl, since Shane is nothing but scattered bones in a field somewhere by now. ;)

    I'm sure there are still "good" people out there. Of course, "good" is subjective because nobody survives this long by always being nice. That said, one can be ruthless and still ethical. There's a difference between looking out for number one, and being unnecessarily cruel.

    The thing is, I don't think Rick believes even he is a "good person" at this point. Let's face it, he has become Shane. He knows it even if he doesn't admit it. The only difference between the two is Rick hasn't plotted to kill someone to take his wife... oh, wait... ;)

    Ok, Rick hasn't sacrificed someone unnecessarily to save his own skin a la Otis. I think. Do we count the poor backpack guy Rick left to die? For no reason?

    Rick is prepared to just outright "take" Alexandria if push comes to shove. You don't take a place without eliminating the opposition. Even if it's their home to begin with.

    I agree it's a question of trust. But I think Rick is also at a point where he barely even trusts himself. And he's projecting a lot of his dark thoughts on everyone else. YES, they've had some brutal encounters with people. Yes, their trust has been used against them. And yes, survival means making your people top priority.

    But numbers matter too.

    Daryl is right. And even Daryl doesn't think they should take just anyone. They do have a screening process, after all.

    Rick is a good man at his core. But he's lost too much of what makes him good. Daryl and Morgan especially are trying to remind him of who he is.

    But it's a fun question to watch play out: how "good" can you be and still survive? Where's the line that once crossed, makes you evil regardless of your intentions?
     
  22. pjgruden

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    I do believe you're correct in that Rick has been struggling internally for some time if he is good or not. That being said, I think we can both admit he's done things for the "right" reasons, even if perhaps he took it too far (the group Daryl was with, the leftover Termites who ate Bob).
    I think at some point this season Rick will also deal with Gabriel. How he's managed to stay alive this long in this group is astounding to me. Although it might not be Rick who takes him out, but Maggie (call it a hunch)
     
  23. Ray D

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    I don't know. I think it was implied in the season finale last year that Gabriel was turning a corner. CLEARLY Rick doesn't trust him. (One of the funniest moments in the premiere: "I'd like to help." "NO! Anyone else?" :lolol:) I think we'll have to wait and see there.
     
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  24. Blast Furnace

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    I think Rick is still good, I disagree with pjgruden, how did he go too far with Daryls group or the cannibals? They were trying to kill them. They should have let them go? Its that kind of softness that gets you killed in this new world. Those people were out to kill them, they let them go and maybe they succeed next time. There are no laws, no jails, the only way to eliminate a threat is to eliminate it.

    And with Carter, I dont think they were judging Rick, think they just felt bad it happened. Carter was as good as dead, they all know it.
     
  25. pjgruden

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    Blast, I meant the brutality in the way that those two groups were killed. I agree that they needed to die, but it was a brutal death on both counts. And yes, I agree they weren't judging Rick for Carter. Just that they are upset that this is the way it has to be now, maybe.
     

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