Not Sounding Good For Golson

Are you comparing Mendenhall's post-injury running to his college days, or his pre-injury Steeler days?

 

Steeler days. Pretty small sample size though haha. I liked Mendenhall. He would have been better behind Decastro.

 

I was looking forward to seeing him this season, so i'm a little disappointed... To put a positive spin on it though, at least it wasn't his knee or ankle.. the shoulder can be strengthened, but a serious leg injury is very difficult to come back from for a db

 

Rookie minicamp can be pretty risky apparently.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...y-dangerous/mLZqSMFCpVGzN44F0dvj5K/story.html

 

I'll say it's a small sample size. Like two quarters of play. 19 carries and a 3 yard average, no touchdowns. The following two years, after that "devastating, career-altering" injury, he accumulated over 2,800 yards from scrimmage and scored 21 touchdowns, despite essentially not playing the first three games while FWP was still the starter. If you extrapolate his stats to include the games he didn't play (5 games), then up until he tore his ACL he averaged 1,445 yards from scrimmage per year and 11 TDs.

Those are just the stats. Just from watching him play, I definitely disagree that he was worse after he came back from injury. I also strongly disagree that he ran hesitantly, ever. That Redman-over-Mendenhall crowd just wanted him to plow ahead like Redman. They were really so simple it was embarrassing, like people who thought Shane should have been the leader on The Walking Dead. "He seem manly. He good. Me like." I mean really, you could say Le'Veon Bell runs hesitantly, except he's lauded as the most patient back in the game.

Mendenhall is also a player without whom we never would have reached the 2010 Super Bowl. He's soft, he hesitates, he was never the same after Ray Lewis injured him... Those are just cute storylines that Ravens fans and anti-Mendenhall fans like to tell themselves. They aren't in reality.

 

Aye. People just decided they didn't like Mendenhall, and everything else was leverage to support that initial dislike. That was before all of his twitter activities, mind (at the start, at least)... sometimes particular players just get that treatment from the off.

 

1. I liked Mendenhall.
2. There is a big difference in being patient behind a decent OL that can actually open holes and being patient when your OL can't run block.
3. Mendenhall wasn't really a speed guy. It isn't like he was waiting to break long gains.
4. I never cared about his Twitter account at all. I am not biased.
5. There is no way to prove his mindset regarding having his shoulder broken. I don't recall him lowering the boom like that afterwards though.

 

I don't personally care about lowering the boom. I don't care how the yards get there, if it's Bettis-style or Archer-style. You can see in the highlight video, he mostly jukes guys and slips out of tackles. He doesn't usually plow through them... but then, most guys don't, and why would he? That's what Redman did, and while it looked awesome, you know what it didn't do much of? Getting yards. He'd break a tackle powerfully and slowly, and get brought down 5 yards later by the 3 other guys that caught up. Better to scoot around a guy and go down 15 yards later. I digress...

In the limited video available, there are lots of broken tackles, but only a couple "lowering the boom" hits, which I took to mean smashing into someone without regard for gaining yards afterward. 1:02 in the first video is a good one.





He didn't make a habit of bowling people over because it wouldn't have helped and it wasn't his style, like it was for Bettis. Bettis made a career out of getting 2 yards more than any other guy, every play, but no long runs. Most guys aren't like that, including Mendenhall. I don't see what evidence there is that his game changed after that injury. He seemed fully-recovered to me, and dished it out when necessary.

 

Whatever. I don't really care WHEN Mendenhall decided he would only ever try to juke corners and safeties.

I know Bettis ALWAYS made DBs look useless and ran over or through many DL and LB.

There were literally dozens of plays where Mendenhall slipped before contact trying to manoeuvre a DB.

The Steelers seem intent to draft big RBs who play like small RBs. I liked FWP. Make him a hole and he will shoot through it. Plus he is a smaller target if the RB is just going to avoid contact anyways.

If Bell had played in Arians offense he wouldn't look half as good and if Mendenhall had played in Haley's offense he would have had more than one Probowl type season. (Cards were 31st in rushing.)

Here is a good example of Mendenhall making a dumb decision:
-RM says BA doesn't practice running enough or use a lead blocker.
-RM played in BA offense for several years but joins him in AZ anyways despite AZ having the worst running game in
the NFL.

Did he honestly expect to have success? Arizona is to RBs what Cleveland is to QBs. Edgerrin James knows what I'm talking about.

Pittsburgh: Bettis, Parker, Mendenhall, Bell
Baltimore: Lewis, Rice, Forsett
Seattle: Alexander, Lynch

Arizona: Emmitt Smith, Marcell Shipp, Edgerrin James, Beanie Wells, Hightower, Mendenhall

Hahaha! Mendenhall went to a team whose leading rusher had 357 yards the previous year. Umm go play for Rex Ryan one year minimum on a prove it deal? Something similar to that? Kubiak? Like c'mon.

I initially thought Mendenhall was saving his body from contact to prolong his career... then he retired at 28.

Mendenhall was a complete back who could pass protect, catch out of the backfield (not in Arians offense much cause that don't work right Le'veon?), and had good vision and ball security. His major flaw was avoiding contact from the DBs he should have been running over and LBs he should have been stiff arming and I'm learning he was always like that.

 

Well.....Looks like torn labrum.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/0...b-senquez-golson-needed-torn-labrum-repaired/

 

Without that fumble in the SB, he'd be remembered a little more fondly. IMHO, that fumble was a failure by the coaches and personnel director. How many people were saying Will Johnson was the better blocker than that other Johnson? Pick a guy and hit him and RM doesn't take a crushing hit by 2 defenders with a helmet on the ball while his blocker stands there like a deer in the headlights.

 

I was looking forward to seeing Golson play also, they need a ballhawk in the secondary. His injury might be a blessing in disguise, they got Boykin who is a better player right now.

 

Don't rush him back if it can be prevented. Give him a chance to learn the defense and the NFL game and best case scenario work him in slowly at the end of the season. If not sit him all season and have him ready to go for next year.

 

Ouch. I had that surgery last fall and I am just now starting to feel like I'm getting close 100%. You need a minimum 4 months of rehab just to get the range of motion back and a full year to get 100% strength and I was aggressive in my rehab. However, he's real young and should be able to accelerate that rehab a bit. But I don't see him playing this season at all.

On a separate note, many people have a SLAP tear to a degree and don't even know it. unless it's from Trauma, it's just one of those things that get worse and worse with wear and tear. He can probably still play today w/o surgery but with pain. He was probably playing with it last year. Hell, I played Basketball for a year with it until I decided to get the surgery when my painful 3 pointers started turning into painful free throws. It will never go away or heal on it's own and is why they are opting for surgery. They need to get that out of the way.

Question is: Would the Steelers have drafted him if they had known about his condition? A Slap tear is easy to conceal.

 

I hope he learns well and heals very well . Not really my type of CB ,but he does have mad mad ball skills and that's alright by me......

 

Answers the question of why they were ticked off about it when it came out....

 

Agree, niterider brings up a good point

 

That was David not Will in the Superbowl.

Anyone know why a guy like David Johnson gets to hang around forever when he is subpar season after season? Gilbert and Adams are in that boat and Mike Mitchell will be too.

 

I know that was my point. David J. was kept over Will J. that season and we all know who the better player/blocker is and was.