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"CAJUN'S" Pre-Camp 53 man Roster

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by cajunyankee, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    I'm not predicting what the Team will do, Just putting out a list I feel gives us the best chance to succeed, win, and develop future players.

    Since I'm no insider or Great analysis of Talent this is a bit suggestive..... But its all in fun.

    Tell me what you think...................

    OFFENSE-

    QB:
    Big Ben
    Gradkowski

    OL:
    Beachum-Foster-Pouncey-DD-Gilbert-Villanueva-Wallace-Adams-BJ Finney

    TE:
    Miller-Spaeth J. James

    RB:

    Bell-Williams-Harris Scheuerman-Johnson(FB)

    WR:
    A. Brown-Wheaton-Bryant-Coates-Goodwin-Devin Gardner

    DEFENSE:

    DL:
    Heyward-McLendon-Tuitt-McCullers-Geathers-Matt Conrath

    OLB:
    Dupree-Moats-Harrison-J. Jones-Chickillo

    ILB:
    Timmons-Shazier-Spence-Williams-Zumwalt

    CB:
    Gay-C.Allen-Blake-Golson-D. Grant

    SAFETY:
    W. Allen-S.Thomas-Mitchell-Golden

    SPECIAL TEAMS:
    K: Suisham LS: Warren P: Jordan Berry

    10 Man Practice Squad:
    CB K. Fogg- DE LT Walton- OG Reese Dismukes- OLB Shayon Green & Howard Jones- OT K. Whimpey- QB T. Boyd-
    Safety Gerod Holliman- WR Shakim Phillips- TE Rob Blanchflower

    Cajun-
     
  2. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    I kinda like what you've got going on... I think having Boyd on the PS and Gardiner on the 53 could be a little redundant. Id probably only keep one of them on the PS. Idt either are good enough to make the 53. I still like Archer over Sheuerman, but it's certainly possible that he doesn't make it. I like Sheuerman the best of the remaining options, so I guess we're cool there. We're LB heavy in this scenario. Either Chick or Zumwalt, not both. I think it will be really hard for Zum to overtake a known commodity in Garvin, and he's probably not a better option as a backup anyways so I think he misses altogether. Garvin in, no 53 no PS. Chick to PS. BW Webb in.

    that still leaves us one spot. Maybe we can add a safety like Holliman? Or you can have Chickillonlike you wanted... Unfortunately that spot will probably be used by a 3rd qb.
     
  3. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    I think Holliman makes the team. Golden has shown his potential is nothing more than a special teamer. I don't think Holliman would make it to the PS without being poached.
     
  4. biggbunch68

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    I think Holiman is gona surprise a bunch of peeps,, and be a Great player, within a year or two
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think Garvin is gone, Zumwalt will take that spot I believe. I agree about Archer, I think he offers a lot more upside than Sheuerman and will be afforded a second season to prove it.

    I agree. I think Holliman can be the steal of the draft.
     
  6. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Holliman stock plummeted but at one point people had him as the Steelers 1st round pick. I missed Archer not being on there and totally agree there is no way Archer isn't on this team. He would have to have an abysmal camp for that to happen or someone would just have to literally explode onto the season ala FWP.
     
  7. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers will most likely keep Archer because Colbert and Tomlin are overly fascinated with speed more so than talent. On my roster Archer is gone, he offers little. Can't run up the middle or get outside, can't pass protect and can't tackle which is why he isn't on defensive ST. Ross is going to surprise people in preseason games.

    Golden is the #1 STer we have and he showed some skills on defense last preseason. I fully expect him to have a solid camp this year. There is a reason Holliman dropped almost out of the draft. I'm hoping he shows a willingness to tackle and hit and is effective at it. If he has two missed tackles in preseason he won't be pouched off the PS.

    Cajun
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I dont think too many teams would give up on a 3rd rd pick after one season. Archer offers so much more than Sheuerman, who will never see the field sitting behind Bell and Willimas. Sheuerman's only chance is to land a spot on the PS.
     
  9. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I kind of like this Cajun, here is hoping the Steelers don't keep a third QB.
     
  10. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    bells suspension keeps an extra rb around early. i also think we keep an extra couple of db's. lewis, holiman, webb, darby. at least in some fashion. what is nice with the youth we have this year is that extra game in preseason to look at these guys.:cool:
     
  11. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    QB - First, I know that many on here don't want L. Jones on the roster....so be it, but I think we keep a 3rd QB.

    RB - Archer makes the team.

    WR - I don't think we keep 6 and I think DHB makes the team due to his special team abilities.

    TE - It would not surprise me if we keep a 4th. I think they really like Clear from TA&M.

    OL - I don't see us keeping Finney on the active roster. I think he goes to the PS instead.

    DL - I think we keep 6. The last one could be Conrath, Walton, or Thomas.

    ILB and OLB - I think we keep 9 unless we are just completely sold on an extra. At OLB, I think Lemon, Jones, and Chickillo all have a shot. Any of them would be okay. At ILB, Garvin and Zumwalt fight it out. Here is the trick though, all 5 of these guys may be fighting for just 1 spot. They may also be fighting an extra DB for a spot which makes it even tougher.

    CB - As mentioned above, that final spot on D may come down to this position. Webb will have some say. Evaluating across multiple positions can be tough. Final competition is going to be tough.

    S - I think it is Golden or Holliman...not both, but you might argue that Golden could be in the mix for that final special teams spot.
     
  12. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    It happens more than you think. Remember Kraig Urbik, Bruce Davis, Willie Reid, all 3rd RD. Alonzo Jackson & Scott Shields were 2nd RD picks cut after their 2nd year as was Jamain Stephens, the former 1ST rd pick. And this is just former Steelers.

    I do agree, as already said, the team won't cut Archer this year, but I would. He offers virtually zero and just wait, Ross is going to surprise fans. He won't see many snaps after Bell and Williams but by yr 3 he just could be our #2 RB.

    Cajun
     
  13. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    I think they are really wanting a hybrid...QB/WR ... and may already have plays in mind. Having a hybrid cancels the need for a 3rd QB. Boyd on the PS is for developmental purposes, hopefully he can supplant Gradkowski in a couple years.

    LBER heavy,yes, but remember, this is most likely Silverbacks final yr, moats and JJ are still unproven in this defense. Chickillo is a solid run defender, which we need, smart and has dropped his wait down to around 250lb. Under Porter he may develop into a fine OLB. Also with Deebo not on ST anymore he should be a good young core STer. As far as ILBer goes we are set very well with our core 4 guys. Garvin is a solid STer but offers little else. Zumwalt is a smart high motor guy whose upside will have him challenging for an expanded role sooner than later and should replace Garvin on ST.

    Cajun
     
  14. pjgruden

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    You roster looks fairly good to me. I might change a fringe player or two, but otherwise I agree. And seeing as how you ditched Cam Thomas I'll give this an A+ :roflmao:
     
  15. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    Tell me more about DHB ST abilities. I see little to no production. Everyone speaks of his ST value because of his speed. He's an 8yr vet and his "current" speed can be easily replaced.

    I would be very surprised if we keep 4 TE and a FB. Clear is not as good a blocker as James or even Blanchflower. In fact if Blanchflower remains healthy he will be a formidable player to replace and James better be ready for a dog fight.

    I may need to change something after reading your post. Keeping 9 OL is exessive and keeping both BJ & Wallace may need rethinking. If BJ plays well in preseason Wallace is out. If he doesn't Wallace is in and BJ to the PS. That last roster spot goes to either CB Fogg or Webb.

    Cajun
     
  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I should clear up that I hope Sheuerman sticks around, if he reaches his potential, he can step in behind Bell after Williams leaves.

    But strictly speaking for this year, i think Archer would be a much bigger help. He may turn out to be a zero but they can work him into the game plan whereas Sheuerman will be riding the pine all year.
     
  17. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    With DHB, I think it depends upon how you define production. He may not have made the tackle, but I think the FO and Coaching Staff appreciate his willingness to do the little things. I personally don't see the need to carry another young receiver. Coates already probably isn't going to dress. DHB knows his role and will do what is asked. With a young kid NEVER getting any snaps as a WR, the attitude could change. I feel more comfortable throwing DHB in there than Goodwin on any special teams play, probably the only role the 4th/5th WR is going to have this year. I see no reason why Goodwin won't fall to the Practice Squad, and even if he doesn't, it doesn't kill you....he wasn't going to dress anyway.

    When it comes to TE, I do think they really like Clear. They brought him in for a pre-draft visit and Haley specifically mentioned him from OTAs. Blanchflower may have a shot but so far he has been very much a flower, always getting hurt.

    To me I think Wallace is the only interior lineman we keep if we find that Hubbard = Finney = Diffenbach = etc. If we don't see much difference in them, then I think we keep 2 young guys on the PS, let Hubbard walk, and open a roster spot for somewhere else.
     
  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    way to early to call many of these spots. i'm also glad we have the extra game to sort it out. remember money will get tight as we sign some guys whose contract will be coming due (beachum and DD)( bell in the future) (foster and wallace and adams and gradkowski down the road) we may be looking to get cheaper even at backup to counter some of this.

    as far as blanchflower and the TE spot, he better stay healthier than he has throughout college and here so far to even have any type of shot.:cool:
     
  19. TarheelFlyer

    TarheelFlyer Well-Known Member

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    Mac I think says it well. At this point, these are just opinions for all of us. We have LOTS of choices to make on this roster.

    QB: Do we keep 3?

    RB: Who after Bell and Williams stays?

    WR: Do we keep 5 or 6? Go young or value the vet?

    TE: We probably have 3 spots all set, so why do we have so many other guys in camp? Could we keep 4?

    OT: We know who the starters are. Does Adams get another shot? Do we replace him?

    Interior OL: Again, we know the starters. Who is the depth?

    How many total OL do we keep?

    DL: 4 spots are set. Who gets the last 2?

    OLB: Again...4 spots are set. Do we keep 5? If yes, who?

    ILB: Here again....4 spots are set. Do we keep 5? If yes, who?

    CB: I think 5 spots are probably set. We could keep 6.

    S: I think 3 spots are set. The competition for the final 1 or 2 will be tight.

    P: Who?

    If you look above, I think we can see that only K and LS have no real competition for spots at that position. This should make for a good camp.
     
  20. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    In reality Ross is PS bound and archer is on the Roster. Thing is we really don't need either one this year to succeed. Last year was a Offensive display this team has never seen. Archer had 10 rushes all yr for 40yds. Remove his long of 15 yds and he avg 2.77yds for the other 9 rushes.7 rec for 23 yds. remove his one long of 15 and he had 6 rec avg 1.14 yds. He was a coomplete failure on offense requiring us to sign Tate and without Bell we lost in the playoffs.

    His only hope, is as a returner. As a punt returner he was 1 for 2 yds but as a KR he was 9 for 161yds. If he is to make the roster he must win the returner job outright..... IMHO.

    I'm pulling for the small school kid Ross, his patient running style and quick cut top end speed fits our new OL. Solid hands really fits Haleys scheme. Let him ride the pine, get some snaps relieving Bell and Williams late in blow out games and he should serious push for key Backup role next year.

    Cajun-
     
  21. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    Your post is why i made this thread, plus its just fun...... Playing GM in this slow time, anticipating camp and preseason.

    And you forgot Ben... I don't think he has competition either....haha

    Cajun-
     
  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I agree that he needs to secure the KR spot but I think you'll see some big plays from Archer this year. I'm not going to give him a final grade based on his rookie season.

    Let Archer cut his teeth on ST while making the occasional splash play and Sheuerman can spend a year on the PS, I doubt he gets poached and hopefully the 2 of them will be contributing together in the future.
     

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