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Landry Jones

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I hope he gets beat out by Taj Boyd as the 3rd string QB, at least they probably wouldn't put Boyd on the 53 man squad like they did with Landry the last 2 seasons :facepalm:. While they lose potential solid backup players like Josh Mauro, I'm sure most fans would prefer to have Mauro on the roster than Cam Thomas. Mark Kaboly of the Tribune Review said that it doesn't look like Landry accuracy has improved during OTAs. It's time Colbert moved on from this mistake.
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Boyd, Landry, no difference, Steelers carry 3 QB's on the roster and don't expect that to change. I'd rather it be Landry since they used a pick on him.
     
  3. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    A dang high one too.
     
  4. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    It would be a brave GM/HC to only carry 2 QBs on the final roster. And, some may say, a foolish one.
     
  5. Myronwemissyinz

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    You say used I say wasted...You say tomato........
     
  6. SteelerGlenn

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    Wait a minute, I thought Mauro was gone because we resigned Will Allen?
     
  7. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Mauro has been with AZ for a while now. After reading his post again though I don't think he was trying to say that Mauro was still here but that he would prefer that he were. Initially when I read it I thought he was saying he was still here. Maybe we both made the same mistake? You see what I'm saying?
     
  8. thorn058

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    Mauro is gone because as good as he showed in the preseason he was still a work in progress and buried on the depth chart behind guys like Heyward, Tuitt, Keisel and so on. Meanwhile he was coveted by Bruce Arians but not enough to use a draft pick on, so when injuries happened on the Cards dline and we left Mauro on the PS, Arians scooped him up and played him. Now he may have showed flashes and been more disruptive than his stats suggest but the fact remains he really didn't do much to stand out for the Cardinals and prove his isn't still a work in progress. Given the turnover in AZ I'd be surprised if he makes the 53 again but Arians can place him on the PS and hope someone doesn't scoop him up again.

    Now as far as Landry Jones goes people need to stop dumping on players because of where they are drafted. They have only limited control over where they go in the draft and their development is limited by entrenched starters. Haley has tailored his playbook to Ben's style which sadly is different than Landry Jones. Jones can only improve on the things his is given to do. Accuracy is something that is hard for any QB to work on and when you are only getting reps with the 3rd team offense it gets even harder. HE may never be a starting quality QB in the NFL league but dumping on the guy because he was a 4th round pick just wrong. I'd like to see him get 75% of the snaps in the preseason and that should give a definitive answer to scrap the project or continue working. Heck he could be a decent Brian St. Pierre clone.
     
  9. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Pretty sure Glenn was being facetious.
     
  10. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Agree about not dumping on Jones. I don't really get the hate or obsession some fans seem to have for the guy.

    I don't see what the playbook has to do with where he's (supposedly) at, though. What do you think that Haley has tailored specifically for Ben's talents? I'm not sure there's anything about the playbook that would be holding Landry Jones back, say, versus most other NFL playbooks.

    Ultimately, Jones has probably developed into what you'd expect a 3rd string mid round QB to develop into. I expect he'll get lots of reps this preseason, and we'll get a chance to see how well (or not) he's come along. I think he'll look improved, but he'll probably flash some deer in the headlights, too.
     
  11. thorn058

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    I may have misspoke about the playbook but I know Haley has tailored it to things Ben likes and does well. As 3rd on the depth chart I don't think Jones has that type of input into the playbook. So when I say the playbook isn't helping him progress I mean that they are working on stuff but not necessarily what Jones does well. To me it isn't like a team that runs the west coast offense where there are basic skills that all OB's have to master before moving on to really make it work. Earlier in the week NFL.com ran an article about Garopolo's bad outing in OTA's some like 5 picks, BB saying he was off on his throws, slow in his reads, slow in his delivery and slow in the 2 minute drill. Then they noted that Brady was 14 of 15 with one drop. See to me that is an unfair comparison because you have a guy who has played in the system for 10 years and knows what he is doing and being asked to do versus a 2nd year player that is still learning. Same thing with Landry Jones, you have a player with limited real time experience, trying to learn and still be effective. It has got to be hard to show improvement when everyone is comparing you to Ben.
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    Oh yeah!
     
  13. CK 13

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  14. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Is there ever a time that he isn't? :lolol:
     
  15. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    :this!:

    I think Landry must have stolen Myron's girlfriend or something. :shrug:
     
  16. Blast Furnace

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    Such as? Ben does't do a lot of freelancing anymore. I think the offenses is tailored to Landry right now, one of the reasons they drafted him, short passing attack.

    Problem is, just not enough reps to go around and the guy is basically getting his work in with other PS squad players.
     
  17. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    well it was highly documented in haley's second year here that ben and he went through the playbook and threw some things out and kept some things ben was comfortable with, and also alot of the verbage. remember the first season with haley ben was calling signals on the field from BA's system.

    now come year 3 with landry, and i have been one that is not as down on him over his time here, but he still shouldn't be confused in this offense and showing some promise by now.

    i also don't think taj will be much better, but he can run when needed.

    gardner now may get some chances and if he shows any thing at the qb spot and at doing some other things for this team, he could be a consideration. i'm not sure he's good enough as just a qb to stick though.

    i also see why the team made the draft pick of landry when they did and were banking on landry to become at least a young longer term 2nd option here with BG getting older. seems like we may be extending him in the near future in none of these others step up soon.:cool:
     
  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Fans hate Landry because he has been on the team for 2 seasons and hasn't shown any improvement at all. He still has no pocket awareness or accuracy, and looks like a wasted 4th rd pick. If the Steelers want to develop a young QB they need to stay away from those spread college QBs who played in the shotgun IMO, next time draft a QB who played in a pro style offense in college.
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    thats the problem 6, there is talk of how college football is so heavily geared towards that style of offense and it's so hard to find a pro style qb. so much read option now being run at that level.:cool:
     
  20. knab70

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    If anyone needs additional reps it's the # 2 guy. If Ben goes down on any given game Grad's next man up! I never had much love for either backup, though if Grad can keep the heads above water that's all is necessary. As to Jones i make no chatter till after preseason to see what's in the puddin'. unfortunately the backup's in the league don't get the needed reps to round off the edges for possible play!
     
  21. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Dude how many more times am I gonna get got in this thread? LOL. I just keep misunderstanding things. I agree that Landry or Archer for that matter can't help where they are drafted. I do wish they hadn't been drafted that early though. I've already told Tomlin that when we were texting though.
     
  22. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    Landry was playing against scrubs last preseason and he was awful. Gonzales struggled as well.
     
  23. Coastal Steeler

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    I don't usually disagree with TTF but, I do not want landry Jones even close. as in not in the state of Pennsylvania. I am in BC and when he played in Heinz Field pre season last year. I smelled him here.
     
  24. Lizard72

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    This! It doesn't matter who the system is tailored to. His job is to learn it and get proficient enough so he can step in and be somewhat productive. I don't care that he doesn't run around and freelance. I want to see him actually make quick decisions and get the ball to a receiver!

    He's a back-up to the back-up and so far hasn't shown crap as far as development.
     
  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why are people so angry over a 4th rd pick? 4th rd, not 1st rd. Lets take a look at their 4th rd picks of late.

    2014 Bryant
    2013 Shark, Jones
    2012 Ta'amu
    2011 Cortez Allen
    2010 Thaddeus Gibson
    2009 No pick
    2008 Tony Hills
    2007 Daniel Sepulveda, Ryan McBean
    2006 Willie Colon, Orien Harris
    2005 Fred Gibson
    2004 No Pick
    2003 Ike
    2002 Foote
    2001 Mathias Nkwenti
    2000 Danny Farmer

    So, why are we beating up Landry again???
     

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