Anthony Chickillo to play OLB? Not DE

Wait wait wait you missed Landry's token spot. Can't forget about that now...

 

Yeah but we all know how much we love to keep three QBs for no reason. If they like Jones that much then get rid of Grad or vice versa,neither one of them is gonna go anywhere else. I really hope we don't lose out on someone with potential...wasted on a third string QB.

 

The only team I recall ever using 2 QB roster spots was the Colts when they had Manning and Painter. It's standard having 3 QB's

 

And it's standard that when your starter goes down you're pretty much effed anyway, so I don't get why if a 3rd stringer shows nothing why keep one around? Have a starter and backup, and keep some scrubs on the practice squad that if things get nuclear, can at least come in and know the signals.

Teams just don't win when they have to use their 3rd string QB, and most 3rd stringers don't pan out.

 

i agree , the best would be have a special teamer that is an emercency qb

 

GB Steel...Tell that to the Arizona Cardinals who had a much weaker offensive powerhouse as we did.

 

Yes, I agree. Garvin has shown sparks, but at the moment both Zumwalt and Chickillo have the higher ceiling.

 

On one hand what your saying has a point but on the other hand the 3rd stringer that you want to throw out on the street does give them the best chance to win rather then pulling someone off the street who has no knowledge or concept of the playbook, or his teammates, nor a full camp with that team.

I recall a game back in 93 between the Eagles and Giants. Both Cunningham and Brister got hurt same game and the Eagles third string was Ken O'Brien had to finish the game. So who was going to play QB if the Eagles followed your concept? A couple years prior, Washington I believed lost all their QB's in Philly so Brian Mitchell (their punt returner) came in to finish the game.

This is why it's teams carry 3 and it's smart. Does it frequently happen where you can lose your backup and starter in the same game? No but it has happened.

 

I have a buddy who is a huge FSU fan and he said no way does Chickiloo makes the team. He slow and not used to covering people.

 

The chance of losing the starting QB and the backup QB in the same game happens about as frequently as having the single long snapper get injured and having James Harrison as the backup. When you lose your top two QB's in the same game you pretty much concede defeat. You plug in the Hines Ward-type skill player who can kinda throw the ball in order to finish the game, and then bring up the two practice squad goons to try to salvage the season if the injuries are bad enough.

What happened to the AZ Cardinals this past season (losing their top 2 QB's and essentially tanking the rest of the year) is what would happen 99% of the time a team's top 2 QB's go down. No 3rd string scrub is going to salvage the season any more or less than a PS scrub would.

We've seen that Landry won't develop into anything spectacular so let's cut the position and give it to someone who may, say, Chickillo, to keep it in perspective of this thread.

 

They carry three and then he is inactive every week....so what's the point. He is a fixture on the inactive list come game day. Death,taxes and L. Jones inactive.

 

I don't pretend to be an expert but I'm pretty sure in this league 3rd string QB's are more involved on game day than one would think. I think they have to be; they're involved by absorbing information/situations, communicating (and learning) on the sideline. They gain nothing by sitting in the press box (or wherever the PS players sit).

Your logic is keeping 2 on the 53 and adding a QB on the practice squad because you think the 3rd string QB is a waste. Then why would you waste a spot for a QB on the practice squad, since you don't want to keep 3 anyway? You say for emergency? Well, I'm saying it's not a waste because by keeping him on the sidelines weekly he's more in the loop then he would be by pulling him off the street/PS.

 

Bill Polian on NFL Radio last night said he loved the pick. Said that he never says this usually, but that this kid will be a much better pro player than he was in college. Miami didn't use him right. Says he has an amazing get off. I'm looking forward to seeing it in camp. Backs on backers, baby!

 

Yeah, that was the one time during the draft that a threw a little fit. It didn't make sense to me at all. I guess for way too many years now I've watched the Steelers throwing away later round picks on what amounts to special teams players at best. The Mike Humpal and Bo Lacy type picks. Admittedly they have gotten a little better with this since Cowher left but the Chick-fil-a pick just seemed like that same old bs to me. I'm over it, whatever. If it turns out I'm all wrong ,I'll gladly admit it.

It just seems to me that the later rounds are for guys who are athletically gifted but aren't great football players...yet. Guys who need to be coached up, but have the athletic ability to be good starters. Not guys who are decent football players now, but who's physical limitations will never allow them to be great players.

 

Really when you look at the numbers of OLB's on the roster... How does Chickillo even make the team unless dare I say he beats out Jarvis Jones in camp (Assuming Harrison is a lock due to being a mentor, and Moats is a lock for depth)?

Doubtful he would make practice squad too since he had a little bit of hype during some of the workouts pre-draft.

 

It all depends on the numbers game. We may keep 9-10 LB's... They might not keep Garvin around at ILB since Williams and Spence are pretty good depth there. They could use the 9th LB spot on someone like Chickillo or Zumwalt at OLB instead. Lemon and HoJo could win that spot as well.

its too early to call which guys are gonna get poached off the PS hahah if he has a good pre season and still gets the PS, then maybe... But if he struggles in pre season, then I doubt he's getting picked up on waivers.

 

You mean like our first round pick Dupree? Haha freak athlete, but not a complete football player yet... The "athletically gifted" guys who "aren't quite there yet" get picked early. The especially freakish go first or second round and the good athletes go in the mid rounds (3-4). There aren't players like that hanging around in the late rounds.

The biggest factor in determining who is a late round pick is usually their size. Mainly they lack something that would make them a "prototypical" fit for their position (short arms, small hands, a little too slow, too short, etc.). It also could be that they are below average athletes for the position, or that they played at a small school (although more small school kids are going early now than ever have before). Essentially the guys you pick are the ones that [A] you think have some skill set that will allow them to succeed despite their perceived defect, you think you can coach them into being good players around their perceived defect, or [C] you think their perceived defect is coachable (technique, adding size/muscle, learning to catch/tackle).

while you're right that most late round guys are ST at best, but it's not just us drafting those guys. Everyone picks dudes like that, because that's all that is left late in the draft haha

 

Yeah, but some are saying this guy was better suited for a 4-3 anyways. So he will be more sought after.

His college career was subpar, but then he loses some weight and starts to shine in predraft events. I believe he was an elite highshool prospect as well.

They will keep 4-5 outside linebacker max. I just don't see him grabbin that last spot.

Jarvis needs to establish himself early in camp, he can't coast this pre-season. If a guy like HoJo comes on strong I think we wave good bye to Jarvis.

 

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I'm glad you found my post so hilarious. I agree with a lot of what you said. There are many reasons guys fall to the late rounds. Small school/level of competition(which doesn't necessarily mean that they have any physical shortcomings). Level of experience. These are guys who might have switched positions, played only a year as a starter due to being stuck behind an All American, JuCo transfers, injury questions(ala Ifo), character concerns(Burfict).

None of these reasons have anything to do with physical potential other than the injury aspect(can a player return to their previous level of physicality).

Bryant is a perfect example. He went in the 4th presumably because he only started one year. Physically, you couldn't build a much better looking WR. If he wasn't quite as much of a physical freak as he is(but still pretty good), where would he have gone? I don't know, 5th,6th?

My ultimate point was, if you're going to throw crap against the wall in the later rounds, you might as well take a chance on these types of guys. Rather than a guy that might play special teams for you for a couple of years till he's forced out due to the acquisition of enough quality players at his position.

Hahahahahaha!

 

Fair enough. Wasn't laughing at you or anything you said, sometimes I type on here how I text since I do so on my iPad or on my phone. Don't take offense.

 

Cool.

 

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpos...y-to-leave-miami-hurricanes-defensive-system/

Posted this in the draft thread. He really enjoyed the 4-3 and the chance to utilize his athletic ability. I wonder if Butler has some things in mind to maximize him in sub packages.

Either way Chick, you're on a 3-4 team now, put your big boy pants on.