~ OFFICIAL 2015 TSF.COM FANTASY DRAFT STEELERS VOTING & DISCUSSION ~

I too like David Johnson in the mid rounds. Idk about Jesse James tho. What is it that you see in him? I'm genuinely curious... As a buckeye fan (who has a brother who is a huge Nittany lions fan) I've seen him play quite a bit and am really unimpressed. Like to the point that I'm shocked he's being drafted at all. Am I missing something?

edit: also, check your PMs I sent you one earlier

 

Heath Millers replacement is not in this draft. Neither is Spaeths. Any TE taken in this class will only challenge Blanchflower. It's a shame because it is time to find one.

I've checked the pm.... looking over prospects to see how deep my wish list is...

Cajun

 

Well its that time to call it since its past the 12am cutoff time.

The final tally:

Grant - 1
Yeldon - 1
Shaq - 2
Ifo - 3
Walford - 3

And the winner....

Rowe - 7

 

I will be nervous and upset. First off Our defense needs rebuilding with solid talent. We have a franchise QB for 5 more years and a very potentially potent offense. Jalen Collins CB should have been the pick or Arik Armstead. Dupree is to much of a boom or bust guy. I believe Rowe will go in the 3rd and was over drafted. If we had gotten Collins in the 1st Davis would have been a solid DL addition or Yeldon if had previously picked Armstead.

Cajun

 

Idk how I'd feel. These are obviously our biggest two needs on defense (maybe safety?), but idk about Rowe and Dupree. I don't know much about Rowe, so I can't comment on him (although he isn't really projected to go this early, is he?)... But I think we missed an opportunity to get Peters in the first. I value him a lot more than I do Dupree. Rowe would've still been an option as a FS if we got Peters, or we could've taken Hunter or Kikaha as pass rushers.

Idk if I'd be upset with the two picks, but I probably would've gone elsewhere with who was available to us.

 

I'm not sure how I'd feel either with the players that were selected. I don't know a lot about either (esp Rowe), I probably would have tried Peters in the 1st and not sure about second with how it unfolded though.

Definitely an interesting one so far.

 

We do . I 1st pondered this with the debate over Danny Shelton. I never ever even considered Arik until Todd McShay mentioned him. I thought it was just silly but decided Maybe I should check him out.

First I try not to draft need. Matching need and BPA is ideal but not always possible. We don't Ned a NT but would have taken Shelton in a heartbeat and I'd still strongly consider Davis now in the 2nd.

Arik is a beast in size and requires constant double teams. He can play the 5 & 3 Tech. The year the Giants beat the undefeated pats in the SB they played 4 DE ...... that stuck with me. Ariks raw talent with some good coaching and he'll be a star, he'll push Tuitt and Heyward and when we play a 4 man line on goal line shortyardage he'll be there.

Cajun

 

I looked into Rowe and decided that I'm on the fence with him. Seems to be a decent fit schematically, but he doesn't look super fluid to me. Not much acceleration, and doesn't quite play as fast as his 40 time indicates. I wouldn't hate the pick, but I think he is over drafted in the second round. Not a giant fan of how this draft has gone for us so far lol although I am warming up a bit on the Dupree pick. He might be worth the risk if he's there.

Side note: I think this is a good year to trade up. There are quite a few guys who have a shot at being there in the 14-19 range that I'd be willing to move a 3rd or 4th rounder to get. I guess we will see how the real draft shakes out.

 

That could be debated, hahah!

 

I prefer Arik over Dupree in the 1st. I'm old school and everything starts and ends at the LOS. We only have 2 capable DE and we need a third for rotation and Lord forbid one of them gets injured.

My wish list is for a CB RD 1. It meets need and there will be solid talent when we pick. I still think Rowe will be there in the 3rd but to me he's a better safety . Also a need and good value there.

Cajun

 

Only way I see him going before the 3rd is as a safety. This class is weak, Rowe would probably be 3rd-5TH best safety taken. To me he barely cracks top 10 in the CB market.

Cajun

 

Ideally I want a future probowl CB RD 1. My whole point is value. In my world Arik offers more value than Dupree.

Cajun

 

I agree with this. I'd rather take Armstead than Dupree but would prefer a top CB.

 

I'll give my 2 cents here on this on going convo about BPA/value vs. need and so on.

Obviously yes its great to be able to take BPA and a great value player. But at the same time you can't afford to always do that every year or quite often and such. Not when you have huge glaring holes (with no starters) and such. You sometimes HAVE to go with NEED over BPA/value or you could hurt your team even more. Now I am not saying make a huge REACH for a player of need...I'm saying if you have 2-3 players available when you pick and say 2 of them are BPA/value players and the other is a need player...and that need player isn't a huge reach (lets say they are all 1st rounders...but the need player is say late 1st round and the others are mid 1st)...you take the need player.

Using some of the names mentioned above in an example...

You have Arik, Dupree and say Kevin Johnson sitting there when your up. Some would say all 3 could be BPA...but lets just say Arik/Dupree are the BPA/Value and Johnson is the biggest need (I know OLB is a big need too but still). I go with Johnson (w/ Dupree coming in 2nd). When you have a number of holes on D...you cannot afford to spend a 1st rounder on a DE that is going to be behind the 2 starters (yes they can rotate them and yes there can be injury...but still) and have them on the bench most of the time. Where a position like CB or OLB could end up being a starter even their rookie season (or at least get a lot more snaps than a DE would...barring injuries/etc).

When a team doesn't have a ton of holes to fill (starting positions)...yes you can then have the luxury of going BPA over need with some of your earlier picks. But I just do not see that as the case some years (especially this year)....there are just too many holes where they need help right away.