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Do you like to hear Tomlin talk?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by shadowmaker, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. shadowmaker

    shadowmaker Well-Known Member

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    I m not trying to sound negative but I just hate to hear him give an interview anymore. The buzz words and the catchy phrases just make my skin crawl.

    Flame suit....
     
  2. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I think he does it cause he hates it. to me, he just has that look everytime he has to do it. like he would much rather be doing something else. I kinda like it cause he has a way of answering a question without actually answering it. I guess I would get tired of answering the same stupid questions over and over too
     
  3. biggbunch68

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    :this!: I cant stand anything about Tomlin,
     
  4. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    A lot of fans sorta live in a bubble. I've started paying quite a bit of attention to other coaches over the years and they all engage in meaningless platitudes and just general "coach speak" if you will. If you listen to any coach they all come out and talk about how they just "beat a good football team" even if they are talking about the 0-16 Lions from a few years ago. They all also talk about how that "injuries are just a part of the game" even when their franchise qb goes down and they all talk about "next man up". Tomlin says "obviously" a lot but if you listen to Mike McCarthy he does as well. MOST coaches OR players don't really like the media because they know that they're just looking for a "story" and they take things out of context to generate controversy to make money for themselves. I will admit that it's annoying when our coach or any other coach does it and sometimes you wish they wouldn't be so political in their approach but the truth is that most of them after ANY loss would probably LOVE to have a Dennis Green moment and just let their team have it but ultimately that would reflect badly on the franchise and just create distractions. I think Tomlin has a really common approach. It's just that most people don't listen to other coaches speak.
     
  5. thorn058

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    I'm not so sure about that BFT. I wouldn't mind it so much if I felt there was more substance behind it. Yes the double speak is entertaining to watch at times, and it is a way to deal with the press asking the same questions over and over but there is something to be said for some intelligent honest coach talk. Which is something that you don't see a lot of coaches doing these days. You know when Gruden sits down with QB's and breaks down tape before MNF games? I'd like to see more of that sort of stuff. Maybe I don't get the right sports new channels or watch enough tape on NFL. com so maybe they do. Anyway I'd like to hear Tomlin's thoughts beyond the obviouslys and the standard is the standard. I'd love to hear his thoughts on DB's and the defense in general and I don't think it gives anything away just talk about your philosophy. something like this

    Reporter: Coach what would you like to see from your DB's in the coming season, how do you think they should approach their play?

    Tomlin: Ideally what we would like to see is our guys winning their one on one matchups. If they are in press coverage we want to see them jam the reciever and force them off their route, maintain their coverage and allow our front seven to pressure the QB.Obviously this isn't going to happen all the time but we want them to be in a position to stop a play on any given play.

    Reporter: How important is stopping the run to what you do as a defense?

    Tomlin: Very important, any time you can take away aspects of your opponents game and make them one dimensional it helps your own game. We want to be solid against the run and show that we can maintain our gaps, control the line of scrimmage and shut down their ground attack.

    Reporter: Is proper tackling part of that?

    Tomlin: absolutely at this level you need to show the proper technique, they need to wrap up the ball carrier and make a solid tackle. I love a good splash play but we would rather have them wrap theri man up and drive through him and get them on the ground.

    Reporter: So what about the big hit?

    Tomlin: The big hit is a calculated risk, one I don't normally mind but with emphasis on safety becoming more and more a part of the game, my philosophy is to make the tackle first, the big hits can come after.

    and thats just what I'd like.
     
  6. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I think he sticks his foot in his mouth a bit much but I will go with his track record and say he's the best option that the Steelers have at this moment to get us back to the SB.
     
  7. freakfontana

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  8. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    It reminds me of how people were up in arms at some point last season - probably every season, though - because Tomlin wasn't jumping up and down on the sideline during games, and didn't seem to be 'doing anything'. I started watching what the other coaches were doing, out of interest... and found there was very little difference in body language. Other than the obvious candidates, like the Hairball.

    The difficulty with Tomlin's use of cliches in press conferences - which I always find quite funny - is that odd thing where this team is our team, so we might feel we want more insight into what's going on there. We're not "the press"; we feel much more intimately attached to the team, so we want some more honesty from it; while at the same time, we're all distant (in real terms) from the team, so there's no medium where we can hear what's 'really' going on behind closed doors.
     
  9. CK 13

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    Funny, the legend Chuck Noll was not riveting and Bill Cowher gave you nothing but Mike Tomlin is an issue with the way he presents himself in pressers. When he is hoisting another Lombardi as the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers all will be right in the world. It's going to happen...The homework he does and they way he talks about opponents before game day is without parallel. The clichés are just another way of saying i'm holding my cards close as most ALL coaches do. If you want riveting, listen to Belicheat :lolol:
     
  10. snipit73

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    :lolol: A man of few words! You'd make a good coach Freak!:lolol:
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Rather listen to him than other coaches.
     
  12. FeartheBeard

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    I just feel like he talks in circles. He doesn't REALLY answer the questions asked but listening to his pressers isn't the issue I have with Tomlin.
     
  13. troybellringer55

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    The standard is the standard.
    We don't live in our fears.
    Obviously.

    Tomlinism at it's best.
     
  14. JAD

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    :this!:Sounds too much like a politician to me.
     
  15. freakfontana

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    to me he ever sound like an actor .. i mean for me is not genuine is all build up ..
     
  16. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Honestly it doesn't bother me at all. In fact i kind of enjoy it. Simply because it bothers so many people. For the most part these are the same people that ***** about the steelers just for the sake of *****ing. I'm 100% positive if the exact same words came out of cowher's mouth we wouldn't hear a peep From them.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Don't they all? They all talk in circles and have their own little idiosyncrasies.

    Its all a waste of time if you ask me, the players, coaches, all give PC answers for the most part.
     
  18. thorn058

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    See that's what I don't get. I mean Lombardi showed the world his favorite play and then talked about how they practiced it. A seal here and a seal here and run the play in the alley. And them they went and did it daring teams to stop it. So why all the secrecy surrounding the coaches and players now
     
  19. Blast Furnace

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    Coaches are in the business of winning games, they probably see no upside from revealing anything, can't say I disagree with that.
     
  20. lloyddestroy

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    When he was first hired, I loved everything that came out of his mouth. Now, as time passed, I am more annoyed than inspired by almost everything he says. His catch phrases feel very empty. As a matter of fact, when he gets blustery usually the exact opposite of what he claims actually comes true. "We are gonna reign hell in December" (and they go on to get punked every game).

    Here is another example. "Tomlin wants D to dominate again."

    http://www.steelers.com/news/articl...te-again/956f4d2d-0329-4da6-b254-24c2a582d7b6

    I am glad he wants the D to dominate. And I want to date Tom Brady's chick. If i want it to be so, then I guess it can happen, right?
     
  21. lloyddestroy

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    True, but they are also part of fan entertainment. Beast Mode hates doing interviews but they fine him if he doesn't. His job is to play football, but he is forced to speak to the media. So, same thing with Tomlin. It IS part of the job. Us fans pay their salaries, in the long run. With no fans, their is no $ for ANYONE. So if we want to hear some thoughts, then give them to us. We aren't asking for them to reveal things that would hurt them in winning games. No one is expecting that.
     
  22. lloyddestroy

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    Well, I know you know this, but it is a different game today. No one would win by running the plays GB did with all opponents know it is coming. No way would that work. The sneakiest of all teams is the Pats, and they happen to win more than anyone under the Belichick/Brady regime. You never know what game plan they are putting together. Very unpredictable, as opposed to us, who are often very predictable, especially on D.
     
  23. thorn058

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    What's the downside to revealing anything? At this point it doesn't matter if it was Cohwer back there, Tomlin or someone new pretty much the whole football watching world knows what the Pittsburgh Steelers are about so not sure he can reveal anything that another team can use. Run the ball, play tough physical defense.
     
  24. thorn058

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    I think the Pats push the boundaries from a rule perspective but they aren't reinventing the wheel either. Lets face it the league is cyclical and most of the stuff they are doing has been done before and will be done again. Do you want to be predictable? No but there is a certain amount built into the game. I think the success rate drops for teams that try to be unpredictable at the wrong times. Case in point look at the SB, everyone watching that game knew what should have happened to end the game. You hand it off to the best back in football in short yardage and win the game. Nope got cute and committed a cardinal sin when losing a football game turned it over in a critical situation. Was the pass a bad idea? not really but if you are going to put the ball in the air in that situation you bring in the jumbo set and sell the play action HARD then dump it to the guy who just sort of gets by everyone. In any case I don't think there is anything to be lost by saying we like to run off tackle to the right behind some devastating blocking by Pouncey and DD. Game tape is out there, teams know it so why not talk about it.
     
  25. turtle

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    I don't think the staff has the confidence enough yet to just talk about what they are going to do as far as gameplan's etc. I'm sure they have a quiet confidence amongst themselves but its another step to broadcast that to the world. Probably still smarting from the "unleash hell" prognostication.
     

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