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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel1031, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Tough to change font color on phone.
     
    BobbyBiz, Mar 13, 2015
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  2. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Figured id start the party.
     
    BobbyBiz, Mar 13, 2015
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  3. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    That's not how you start the party Bobby this is how we roll......

    Signing Ben will mean nothing if we don't spend enormous amounts of cash on FA who don't fit our scheme...... and ummm more than 100 dollars on the weight room.
     
    thorn058, Mar 13, 2015
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  4. gpguy

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    Just making sure...as some of the people around here WOULD seriously post that, haha
     
    gpguy, Mar 13, 2015
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  5. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Well he is in that first five years of marriage and two kids he should be adding something like 20 pounds or so to him. I know I did its all the leftovers but now that the kids are toddlers and preschool they eat more and I get less so it all buffs out.
     
    thorn058, Mar 13, 2015
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  6. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    LMAO!

    Signed through 2019
     
    strummerfan, Mar 13, 2015
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  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    is it 5 plus this year? he had this year still under contract.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Mar 13, 2015
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  8. SteelerGlenn

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    No, it's five years total
     
    SteelerGlenn, Mar 13, 2015
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  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    ok thanks glenn.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Mar 13, 2015
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  10. biggbunch68

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    No #'s on Bens contract ??
     
    biggbunch68, Mar 14, 2015
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  11. SteelinOhio

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    Great news. I'm looking forward to hearing more.
     
    SteelinOhio, Mar 14, 2015
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  12. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    5 years, reported total value is $99 Mil, that can escalate to $108 Mil.
     
    TerribleTowelFlying, Mar 14, 2015
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  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's gonna eat some cap.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Mar 14, 2015
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Blast Furnace, Mar 14, 2015
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  15. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    $65 Mil over the first 3 years of the deal, which I believe is a first.
     
    TerribleTowelFlying, Mar 14, 2015
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  16. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    This deal is probably going to be more favorable than it initially seems when the details come out. What I've been saying for I don't know how long...high APY on the surface for appearances, but a bit lower in guarantees.
     
    TerribleTowelFlying, Mar 14, 2015
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  17. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    It seems as though I just became a bit more poorer.:worried:
     
    86WardsWay, Mar 14, 2015
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  18. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I need to see the details first, but in terms of total dollars the deal seems to be reasonable for a franchise QB. Spotrac is reporting it as a 4 year, 87.4 million extension, which fits when you take his 11.6 million salary for 2015 into account.

    I'm sure some folks won't like it, but that's the reality of the NFL business. Franchise QBs get paid, and $20+ million is the current going rate. Heck, it may even look like a bargain when some of the guys coming up like Luck sign pen to paper.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Mar 14, 2015
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  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's understandable. it should raise this years hit from him I'd think from that 11 mil. number. throw in Timmons and AB and it's a huge chunk of the 143 mil cap number. what hurts the worst is the next couple of guys on our list. troys 8+ mil and cortez's 6+mil.. for two guys that may or may not really help. they will have to do something with those two I would think. next we need to sign heyward and get that 6.9 mil. number down some.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Mar 14, 2015
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  20. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    They can structure it a lot of ways. Really hard to say until more details come out. Hard to think his '15 cap hit will go up much if at all.
     
    TerribleTowelFlying, Mar 14, 2015
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  21. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    hopefully not so we can get some of the dead money off the books this year. it will be a big hit too.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Mar 14, 2015
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  22. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Not following the cap closely. How much are they under currently? IMO, I think that if they can add some nice pieces and tie up some key guys for this year, they should not try to reduce his cap hit and maybe even increase it for this year. I'd be in favor of doing that rather than continually kicking the can down the road. The Ravens have some real problems starting next year with Flucco's cap hit. For now it looks like $28+M for 2016 and $31M for 2017 :eek:


    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco/
     
    BobbyBiz, Mar 14, 2015
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  23. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    20 mil a yr?!! I like Ben but wow ....I don't know about this amount. I can see a restructure soon
     
    defva, Mar 14, 2015
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  24. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    anyone know what is guaranteed? signing bonus can be a lot of the money, right?
     
    steel1031, Mar 14, 2015
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  25. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    When a QB like Andy Dalton signs a 19 million dollar a year deal then signing Big Ben for 20 million a year is all but guaranteed.
     
    86WardsWay, Mar 14, 2015
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