I am ready to slap Colbert/front office

You make my point with the tunnel vision. He doesn't trust his staff or his self to focus on a position for fear it could lead to a mistake.

If he did focus on a position he might miss another player. Again sounds like the fear of missing another player is keeping him from focusing on a specific group of players.

I think a good Front Office guy should be able to target specific groups and value certain groups higher than others and still be able to make correct decisions on draft day .

Not sure I want to go into battle with a guy saying we better not bring our best weapon it might cause us to forget we have our survival knives .

That weapon in the draft is knowledge and how can he have the proper amount if he refuses to focus on a position as a matter of principal.

His approach it seems he will know as much about WR'S as he does OLB'S and CB'S even though we need those positions so much more. Go figure.

 

Unfortunately for you going in with a narrow minded view isn't using your best weapon or weapons. You're closing yourself off to other possibilities. To further your battle analogy if you go full out in one direction without preparing yourself for being flanked you lose. It has nothing to do with being afraid. It's being prepared and making the best possible decision in a fluid environment. The draft is completely unpredictable. Every year there are players that rise and fall unexpectedly. If you go into the draft focusing on one position you lose. End of story.


Your plan. I don't care who is there we're taking a cb in the first. It doesn't matter if the cb fits our scheme we need a cb. Who cares if there's a player that improves the team more than any available cb. We need a cb and we're taking one.

Colbert's. We keep our options open.


hmmmm

 

All I can say is DL is gone a lot blame him for the lack of finding good DB'S . Now that he is gone KC better know what's next . His old school hang around and wait for a player to fall in his lap is going to cost him his job.

Lets see how he likes keeping that option open.

 

When is the last time the Steelers moved up or down in the 1st. or 2nd. round ? Those are the money rounds to me .

 

I believe we are being hindered with ego on this front, as we were with LeBeau the last few years. Whenever there seems to be an obvious need, it seems they won't take the position high just to "show us" they are genius. Like those years we needed OL help, and they would barely draft any OLmen, but instead made brilliant picks like Limas Sweed and Bruce Davis. They carry themselves as draft gurus, but I got news for them, their drafts lately are nothing to brag about.

Ryan Shazier LB Ohio State - We will see, I don't like that he added 20 lbs of muscle right before the draft, and then shrunk back to safety size coming off injury. I think he might be too small.

Stephon Tuitt DE Notre Dame - I like his upside a lot.

Dri Archer RB Kent State - He has shown nothing, even as a KR. Just too small.

Martavis Bryant WR Clemson - Looks like great value; already lit it up as a rookie, imagine what he can do as he progresses.

Shaquille Richardson DB Arizona - A bust where we really needed a hit.

Wesley Johnson T Vanderbilt - Left unprotected and the Jets nabbed him. What a shame.

Jordan Zumwalt LB UCLA - Little known

Daniel McCullers DT Tennessee - I feel he is just too painfully slow and clumsy, but still worth working on.

Rob Blanchflower TE Massachusetts - Nothing

2013

Jarvis Jones LB Georgia - Too slow, too weak. Could be major bust.

Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan State - Loved this kid and predicted he would be taken by Pgh and be a top 5 back. He already is.

Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State - Has hope

Shamarko Thomas DB Syracuse - Never sees the field.

Landry Jones QB Oklahoma - Terrible, awful, waste of a pick.

Terry Hawthorne DB Illinois - Nothing

Justin Brown WR Oklahoma Doesn't cut it

Vince Williams LB Florida State - Decent

Nick Williams DT Samford

2012

David DeCastro G Stanford - Coming around

Mike Adams T Ohio State - One of the worst picks in modern era of Steelers. Terrible. Soft. Weal. The worst. Way to F that up fellas.

Sean Spence LB Miami (FL) - Massive injury, coming around

Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington - Too stupid

Chris Rainey RB Florida - Idiot

Toney Clemons WR Colorado - bust

David Paulson TE Oregon

Terrence Frederick DB Texas A&M - bust

Kelvin Beachum T Southern Methodist - Nice value

2011

Cameron Hayward DE Ohio State - hit

Marcus Gilbert T Florida - Terrible, bust

Curtis Brown DB Texas - horrible

Cortez Allen DB Citadel - Stinks

Chris Carter LB Fresno State - bust

Keith Williams G Nebraska

Baron Batch RB Texas Tech - no good

2010

Maurkice Pouncey C Florida - Finally came around

Jason Worilds LB Virginia Tech - so so

Emmanuel Sanders WR Southern Methodist - solid

Thaddeus Gibson LB Ohio State - bust, think they may just value OSU players too much?

Chris Scott G Tennessee bust

Crezdon Butler DB Clemson- another late CB pick who is worthless

Stevenson Sylvester LB Utah - bust

Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech - I liked this pick, but he is just too lazy

Antonio Brown WR Central Michigan - grand slam

Doug Worthington DE Ohio State - another OSU bust

2009

Ziggy Hood DT Missouri - bust

Kraig Urbik T Wisconsin bust

Mike Wallace WR Mississippi - good a where they took him, but an a hole

Keenan Lewis DB Oregon State - gone

Joe Burnett DB Central Florida - bust

Frank Summers RB UNLV - with Buffalo

D'Shon Harris DT Oregon - bust

 

Did it ever occur to you that the Steelers(aka Rooney, Colbert,TOmlin et al) didn't feel there was a player worth trading up into the 1st or 2nd? I'm mean outside of the obvious need for a willing trade partner and value received in any potential deal. Oh wait, I almost forgot the only possible option is Colbert is afraid and incompetent.

 

But if players that came off the board before you picked are playing better than the 1 you picked maybe should have tried harder to trade up ?

If players coming off after you pick are playing better than the 1 you picked then maybe you should have tried harder to move back.

It seems your last line probably sums it up the best .

 

Nobody should be surprised by this .

I would be concerned if Colbert started going on in press conferences about us focusing on one position, whether it was CB or QB. We are never in the position to pick in the top five (where the picks are often obvious by virtue of the talent available), or in a position where one area is the clear and overriding need (we've confounded the draft gurus for a while now). It's about keeping options open, which for me is the best approach in a draft.

I don't for a minute think that the war room isn't all over every DB they can look at, though.

 

I think the slightly noncommittal responses from KC are much better than "We still have holes in the scouting department from a few years back.
We are not quite back up to speed."

It seems that is the case. There are not as many diamonds-in-the-rough being found by our scouting department; Sometimes it feels like they are less informed in the early rounds than the members of this board. I don't require the sexy, popular pick. I want the OC and DC to define a direction in which they need to go, and staff accordingly.

/I do like the futures signings, and looking for guys under rocks in Canada. Maybe the scouting is getting better- or unleashed.

 

@lloyddestroy I'm not quoting your exhaustive list of draft picks with evaluations, but I was laughing as I went through it.

*The bar is very high;

*It seems that you got progressively angrier as you went back in time.


Filling the giant sinkholes in the roster(OL, OLB, the back end in general) before the 5th round would go a long way.

 

depth on this team show how good /bad , we drafted in recent years

 

I'm not sure I understand. Am I funny? Am I funny like a clown?

 

Afraid? Lol come on. If you lock on to one position you do what the Browns did in last year's draft. They HAD to get a QB, panicked, and traded future assets to move up and draft Manziel. They made a poor choice because they felt like they absolutely had to get a QB. Missing in the first round because you HAD to draft a QB (or CB in our case) sets your franchise back years.

 

Actually, they had Hoyer coming back who did pretty well before he got hurt, so, although they obviously should draft SOME ONE at QB, they didn't have to take Johnny and already had passed on him. It wasn't until JM started texting one of the coaches, saying, "Draft me and let's wreck this league" that they went for him. There is no doubt, regardless of what the team says, that they do draft for position and make reaches sometimes. Or, how else do you explain Troy Edwards?

 

the archer pick last year was horrendus in any way you look at .. we had desperately need in the secondary and you throw away a late 3rd on a toy ? not to mention the landry jones one the year before .these are value rounds where you can't throw darts

 

let's do a game :when there will be the real draft in april at our every round pick let's make what we would
draft .. keeping the list of everyone ,let's see what we could do instead of colbert .. could be funny

 

maybe without them is better

 

I kinda felt your pain jumping right off the page! Good work!

 

I really hope your last line is dead wrong . The talent we have skipped at that position the last 10 years is crazy. If it is true then we either have very low value for the position or we have very poor scouting when it comes to that position or both.

Your last line will haunt my dreams if I look back at the last 10 drafts .

 

I totally agree, 100%. They have consistently BLOWN 3rd and 4th round picks on total "throw mud at the wall" picks that have hurt us. Archer...a cute toy. A punter who was cute because he could tackle, and was hurt all the time. A worthless LB, A fat, soft OT in Hills. But they are going to show everyone how they are the smartest guys in the room. Just ask them.