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Charlie Batch Sums it Up Nicely

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelsax, Nov 30, 2014.

  1. Steelsax

    Steelsax Well-Known Member

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    When the team plays good and has success it's because of the PLAYERS
    When the team plays poorly it's because of the COACHING

    Steelers could win the SB and still a lot of you would be hating on Tomlin. Ben had a bad game today, is that really Tomlin's fault!?
     
  2. shaner82

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    HOw many bad games do our players need to have before you blame the coaching staff? What's telling to me is that no matter how much talent the Patriots lose, they are true Super Bowl contenders every single year. They constantly trade and cut players that seem important to their success, yet it doesn't even slow them down. Their players always seem to play at the top of their game, and when they don't, they quickly find themselves on the bench.

    That's simply not the case with us. It's unacceptable that we have perhaps the best WR and RB combo in the league, yet we have trouble scoring points. That's beyond unacceptable.
     
  3. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    they cheat!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. 12to88

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    Here is the answer.

    This is a talented football team, especially on offense. When they win, it's because the talent has overcome the coaching.

    Mike Tomlin is the biggest joke of a head coach in the NFL. How much so? Gee whiz, Michael Vick was just benched in favor of Geno Smith, the same Michael Vick that lit up Tomlin's team a few weeks ago.

    I guarantee that most of the NFL HCs could take thie Steelers +2 weeks against a team coming off a short week, on the road, and beat them.

    Not the screw-up we have at HC.

    I will NOT rest until Tomlin is fired. period.
     
  5. strummerfan

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    Yeah it's Tomlin's fault that a $100,000,000 quarterback threw 2 interceptions and should have had 4 or 5 more. In addition to that garbage he also missed wide open receivers repeatedly!n Enjoy your sleep depravation!
     
  6. freakfontana

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    tomlin has no leadership even as a cheerleader ben is running the team in complete anarchy , he doesn't know hoe evaluate any defensive player .. this team is a mess from the head to the bottom .. every game you don't know in what mood they show up ...
     
  7. biggbunch68

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    :this!: and im afraid we are not gona get much rest...
     
  8. jaygorius

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    Couldn't have said it better. Anyone who has watched most of the games the last three seasons knows something with the team just doesn't feel right. Yes, the players are to blame as well but Tomlin hasn't been great. Tomlin is not a bad coach, maybe the reality is that he is only a .500 coach who had a good run while his message was still fresh and not falling on deaf ears. He has shown again and again that he doesn't not have what it takes to right the ship when things go bad. That's ok, not everyone is chuck Noll or Vince Lombardi but we should strive for better, shouldn't we?
     
  9. biggbunch68

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    So far every game this year they came out flat,( not including the Browns game at the first of the year) is flat a mood:shrug:
     
  10. Homestead____Works

    Homestead____Works Well-Known Member

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    Ben had his worst game of the year.
    The coaching doesn't fit, what could be an explosive offense.
    Ya, call a time-out 1 minute into the 2nd half, while losing. Mr. time-out, clock manager, though that wasn't such a big deal... , this time.
    Offense could be great, defense not great, but, not bad in today's NFL.

    1 - 10 scale
    players over-all - at least a 7
    coaches - no better than a 4
     
  11. Blast Furnace

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    This seems pretty obvious to me. I'm always on Bens side but he had a bad day. And I knew Brees would carve up this secondary.
     
  12. shaner82

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    But Brees wasn't carving our secondary early on. In fact, we were stopping them. They only started putting up points when Ben started giving them the ball. That's on Ben of course and not Tomlin, but why do our players have so many bad games under Tomlin? Great coaches know how to get the best out of their players. They seem to be always able to get their players to play to the best of their abilities. That's not the case with Tomlin. Look at how many of our high draft picks haven't panned out under Tomlin. The guy can't coach his players up.
     
  13. Jammasterc

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    Saints receivers had a few drops in first Quarter.
    One was a wide open TE right up the middle that would have been a TD.
     
  14. freakfontana

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    yes is his fault , i saw the lockeroom after the win in tenneseee and he was greet all players like they had won a superbowl while instead they had a subpar performance .. he should have beat them with the wood .. :beathorse: . the players dosn't feel any power leadership from the head coach ...and they come out always flat
     
  15. Aerosteel

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    Don't argue - Shaner blames Ben for everything, including the bad defense.
     
  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Because of the success we have had, I have had some blind faith in our head coaches. I have season tickets. I do not see the leadership from the sidelines during the games that we had in the past 30 years.
     
  17. shaner82

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    How do you not blame Ben for this loss?
     
  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    And some give Ben credit for everything. It averages out.
     
  19. BigSteel

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    I'm only stating this from what I hear from most of the Tomlin haters but Ben is the biggest reason we lost this game, Ben is Cowhers player... Our number 1 corner and safety(Taylor & Troy) is Cowhers player and everybody know there is no talent in the rest of the secondary so why do we blame Tomlin after every loss loss?
     
  20. Aerosteel

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    How about the defense allowing 4 touchdown drives of 79, 80, 89 and 80 yards?
     
  21. freakfontana

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    is so evident i can 't understand people cannot see it
     
  22. Rush2seven

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    It's a shared responsibility. Ben and the defense played poorly. The coaches coached poorly. At least, we are blaming our coaches and players. The Raven's fans are blaming the refs.
     
  23. Aerosteel

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    :this!:
     
  24. Rambro

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  25. santeesteel

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    They're right.............this time.
     

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