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The Walking Dead (no comics spoilers)

Discussion in 'The Watercooler' started by Ray D, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I thought you all might get a kick out of this too.

    We all love the show, but we are nowhere near the fans that a friend of my wife's is.

    I don't know her much at all. I've only met her a time or 3. But she was my wife's best friend growing up. My wife was a bridesmaid at her wedding many <mumble> some odd years ago. I still remember that as being the wedding I had the most fun at ever despite not knowing a single soul other than my wife. But that's another story...

    I told you that to tell you this:

    Her husband bears a striking resemblance to Rick. Oh, he's not a complete look-alike. But he has a similar height and build. His hair and even his beard are VERY similar. And his facial features are "close enough" that when he wears sunglasses especially, you do a double take.

    I wish I could show you pics, but I don't want to harm their privacy.

    Their whole family are huge fans of the show. They even took a trip to Atlanta to tour the filming sites. And that's when it happened. He started getting fan girled by burly grown men and teenagers alike. He'd walk into stores and the clerks would start stuttering thinking Andrew Lincoln just walked in. He got mobbed. To the point they realized being a celebrity may not be so much fun after all. :roflmao:

    They were there for the filming of the Terminus battle. They couldn't get very close as security was very tight. But they watched from a distance on a hill and reported months ago about a HUGE explosion and so much gun fire going off it sounded like WWIII. I guess we all know what that was about now. (And no. they are not my "source." ;))

    But here's how big of a fan they are: Her husband just got a job offer to work in Atlanta. So they moved... to Senoia. Senoia is the real town the show used as "Woodbury." It's also where the show is currently filming. (About a mile from their house)

    I think her husband might want to shave. ;)
     
  2. pjgruden

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    I read the Comic and couldn't understand it. I completely forgot about that part in the comics. The only thing I thought about Dale was he was sleeping with Andrea. Which would be a neat trick right about now.
     
  3. biggbunch68

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    I think Eugene is full of crap,, and whats up with the marking on the tree??
     
  4. Ray D

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    Eugene does sound like a blowhard. But what else do they have to do?

    The markings are coming from Gareth's group. I speculated as much last week with Morgan finding some. I'm not quite sure what their significance is yet, unless they're just trail / territory markers.
     
  5. biggbunch68

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    I thought they where markers also, but the ones on the tree tonight was diff than the ones lst week, or did i just that wrong ?
     
  6. Ray D

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    No. They were different. But I just figured it's some kind of coded message.
     
  7. Ray D

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    A couple of minor nitpicks. Not just tonight's episode, but in general:

    Drinking water straight from a river? Or any "natural" source and not boiling it or purifying it first? How have they lived this long? Going to be real hard fighting the walkers while feverishly soiling yourself to dehydration, exhaustion and death. And this is not even factoring in that you are in an UNDEAD APOCALYPSE! That water is dodgy enough as is, let alone the untold numbers of dead or zombies polluting it.

    I don't care how hungry I am. There is no way in seven hells I'm eating ANYTHING that spent time in that flooded basement. The Talking Dead beat me to the punch, but they made my point there too. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly go into that water in the first place? Might as well go swimming in a septic tank! What? We don't get infections anymore???

    I've always wondered... does the "virus" or whatever it is that causes the dead to reanimate also cause their skulls to become the consistency of paper mache?

    Minor spoiler. Very minor
    Are we ever going to find out Tyrese was a LB for the Falcons???

    This episode related spoiler:
    Why do Gareth and company NEED to be cannibals? It's their only option to survive? Huh? Everyone else seems to scavenge food just fine. They're hunters but they can't, you know, HUNT? Cripes! Daryl bags 5-6 squirrels on a leisurely morning stroll! There's PLENTY of food sources out there! The RAREST food source, it seems to me, is other friggin people!
     
  8. pjgruden

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    Yeah, the water kind of threw me for a loop too. Who knows what's in there.

    And I agree with you about the food bank. There has to be other food sources.
    And, while we're on the subject of this food, they seemed to be having a big ol' party with all of that food. After not eating well for a while, one would think they'd want to take it easy, or else they'll all wind up sick. Not to mention this big smorgasboard is going to look mighty wasteful to them when they run out of canned goods. It's not like there's a factory producing any more.

    As for the
    hunters, maybe people are easier prey? Maybe people are really tasty? I'm just grabbing straws here, because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But then again, it was in the comics, so I can't totaly fault the writers for this one.
    I find it funny/odd/ironic that the two people in this show who've had amputated legs were the ones who knew medicine (at least somewhat).
    Does the group find the hunters in time? And if so, will they meet the same fate they did in the comics?

    The group should have listened to Rick in episode one
    about finishing the job of erradicating the Termites

    Oh, and as for your paper mache skull observation, maybe because they're still decaying? In theory, the walkers who have been around since the beginning should be getting continually weaker. Even if they are eating, I assume the body isn't functioning normally and digesting the food. Hell, we've seen heads still kept alive, so the bloodlust is probably nothing to do with needing food.
    By my logic, provided that there aren't newer dead, wouldn't the walkers eventually die off? They would just decay into nothing? Then all they would have to wrry about would be when someone dies, as they'd turn. You'd have to be sure you put a bullet in the head of everyone when they die.
     
  9. Ray D

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    If you ever read the Zombie Survival Guide or World War Z (the amazing book. Not the crap movie that basically stole the title and then did nothing from the book), it had similar ideas for how zombies work. When they're fresh, they're stronger, faster, and relatively coordinated. But as they become damaged, and rot, they weaken. Flesh falls off, etc. BUT, they decay at a much, much slower rate. And as long as there's any connective tissue and muscle at all, they can and will move/attack. (The whole outbreak started when a Chinese diver was bitten or scratched by a submerged zombie that had been there for a long, long time and only surfaced due to work being done to build a dam).

    But bone doesn't decay like that. And skulls are highly resistant to crushing. ;)
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    That ending was so effed up :eek:
    Feel so bad for Bob! I thought that maybe he was bitten when that zombie pulled him under the water, he seemed to be acting strange, and then crying outside. Would be great if that were true and Gareths gang turn from eating him. Rays right, these guys are a special breed of scum, Ricks group is still finding food without resorting to filleting people. Hate Gareth more then the Governor.
     
  11. TerribleTowelFlying

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    I was thinking he was bitten, too. Am I the only one who was impressed with their medical field trauma skills? :)
     
  12. Ray D

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    Even without knowing that particular comic spoiler, I agree that
    Bob was bitten. His whole demeanor changed rather instantly. "One more" sounded like "one last time." Everyone is safe and happy for the first time in a long time, and Mr. Positive is suddenly sad? Yeah. He knew he was dying.
     
  13. pjgruden

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    I read all of World War Z, and read about 2/3 of Zombie Survival guide before I got bored with it and stopped. While interesting, WWZ just didn't do much for me. Although it was much better than the movie.

    I do agree that bone is not that soft. Maybe everyone who hasn't turned now has some type of superhuman strength? :dancing:
     
  14. pjgruden

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    As for Bob, perhaps he knows that there is no happiness in the ZA, as given what went down with groups he was with previously. Maybe he's sad because it's all going to come crashing down.
    Or maybe, you know, it's like you said and he's not long for this world.

    No one has touched on Daryl and Carol
    going after the car with the cross. Different vehicle this time, but I assume we are led to believe this is the same person/people that kidnapped Beth. Do they catch up with them? You would think that the cross car had too much of a head start. And, how much gas did the Caddy that Carol got running have? Are they going to go barreling off into the night and be stuck somewhere?



    One other question that I'm curious about now is the
    scratches in the wood of Gabriel's church. The "you will burn for what you've done" (or whatever it said) was left by who? Was it someone that Gabriel refused to let in to the church? Was it Garreth's group? We know they've been watching Rick's group.
     
  15. Ray D

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    Daryl and Carol chasing after that car? Going to have to see that play out. No idea in what direction that part of the story is heading. Although my source told me one rather confusing tidbit. I'm not sharing it as it doesn't make much sense yet. It sheds no light on who those people are or what they want.

    The scratches in Gabriel's church?
    Well, he seems AWFUL guilty about something. As in, can't forgive himself type of guilty. My best guess is he locked people out of his church or turned them away when the whole zombie outbreak happened. Either through fear of the plague, or greed to keep resources to himself. Not sure which. Either way, he betrayed his mandate as a man of the cloth. But that's just my working theory. I have not read the comics, although I know some of the stories. Gabriel isn't one I know. Whoever/whatever is going on with Beth? I don't think that's even from the comics.
     
  16. SteelinOhio

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    That's pretty much my take on what was happening with Bob. My wife and I both thought
    that he was bitten while he was under the water, after all there were still 3 walkers down there that they knocked down with the shelving. When he went outside to cry alone, it seemed the most likely explanation.

    As far as Gabriel goes,
    we had the same idea; that he probably locked himself in and left people outside to die rather than helping them. He's been portrayed as very wimpy, and even though his mission in life is to save people spiritually, my guess is that he didn't make the same application for saving people physically.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    Yes, I was quite impressed myself :lolol:

    As for the other discussion going on about Gabriel
    My guess, is he is tied to the group that stole Beth. Has the cross symbols on the car and it just happened to be in the vicinity of the church :hmmm:
     
  18. niterider

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    My take Bob is that he
    was bitten in the same leg that was cut off thereby saving his life.
    Which begs the question:
    At what temperature is Human meat considered safe to eat?
    :roflmao:
     
  19. Blast Furnace

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    So I guess next episode will switch gears and focus on whats been going on with Beth. I just hope its not as boring as the last time the story focused on her!

    As for Gareth and his group
    man I enjoyed that! Hated that little weasel, saw the red hatchet in Ricks pocket and said oh yeah, here comes some pain :lolol:. The only thing I don't get though is, wouldn't they have turned from eating Bobs leg? That would have been poetic justice I think if they went that route.
     
  20. SteelinOhio

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    Yeah, great episode. I kept looking for the
    red handled machete to appear
    , and when it did, I was like, "go time!"

    I have been interested to see what's been going on with Beth, so I hope it's worth the wait, but like you Blast, I hope it doesn't get dragged out.
     
  21. biggbunch68

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    I was wondering why Carol was hide'ing in the woods at the end.. was she hurt or guarding someone that they captured??
     
  22. Ray D

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    I don't think if was Carol. She'd have no reason to stay back. So who is it and where is Carol?
     
  23. pjgruden

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    I thought Carol or Beth at first, but then I thought about it some more. I think it might have been Morgan. We haven't seen him since the premier, and he was on the similar track that Rick's group was on.
    And, if it isn't Carol or Beth like I suspect, what happened to their car? Did it run out of gas? Did Daryl leave Carol in that place they took Beth, to go get the others so they could mount a seige and get Beth out?

    I'm left wondering if we'll fracture the storyline here and focus on multiple groups again, like last season. In other words, how long before we meet up with Abraham's group again? Speaking of Abraham's group, anyone else think that Tara has a thing for Glenn? I KNOW she was a lesbian when we first met her, but who knows.

    Something that's been made abundantly clear the last couple of seasons is that in the ZA, walkers really are the least of your worries. You have to keep a watchful eye moreso on your fellow humans.
     
  24. SteelinOhio

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    That's what my wife said when Daryl stepped out.
     
  25. pjgruden

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    Which, if you think about it sadly makes sense. It seems like there are never more than a couple black males in the group at any time. Before it was just T-Dogg. He gets it and along comes Tyrese. Now Bob is gone and is replaced by Morgan. Kind of amusing timing to me.
     

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